Despicable NOTW

[cornholio's RC200]

So, the next thing is that Gordon Brown's details have been hacked by the S*n and Sunday Times to 'get the scoop' on his son having cystic fibrosis. Now, I don't care what you think of Brown and his recent time in politics; this is beyond a joke. If medical records can be hacked we have a serious problem. Bank records were obtained as well by this scumbag organisation :evil:

And in further news - The News of the World has closed and Rebekah Brooks (who don't forget was involved in both the NOTW and S*n) still has her job. So that's two Red Tops to have gone down on Rupert Murdoch in the last few days....

 

[David B]

So, the next thing is that Gordon Brown's details have been hacked by the S*n and Sunday Times to 'get the scoop' on his son having cystic fibrosis. Now, I don't care what you think of Brown and his recent time in politics; this is beyond a joke. If medical records can be hacked we have a serious problem. Bank records were obtained as well by this scumbag organisation :evil:

I'm no great fan of Brown or Labour but couldn't agree more with that post - this latest development absolutely stinks. Pre-NOTW shutdown, a BBC Breakfast commentator used a phrase to the effect that News International (or at least the News of the World) had descended from the gutter into the sewers; bang on the money.

David

 

[BobCatMax]

definitely time for Rebekah Brooks to go.

 

[Iwasgoodonce]

Watching this with interest as I would think about having Sky TV if I knew I wasn't making the Murdochs even richer.

Capt. (H. M.) Murdoch, that would be fine, I'd definately have it then.

Another thought, am I the only person that thinks that the Ed Milliband sounds like a jazz combo? "Put your hands together for the Ed Millar Band" etc, etc.

 

[technodup]

So, the next thing is that Gordon Brown's details have been hacked by the S*n and Sunday Times to 'get the scoop' on his son having cystic fibrosis.

And yet he was still desperate to cosy up to them to win votes.

He also wasn't overly competent when it came to others' personal details; see the various data loss episodes throughout his tenure. But seems outraged when it happens to him.

I'm not condoning it but with there's nothing worse than hypocrites like Brown, Coogan and Grant claiming their pound of flesh.

 

[Neil]

So, the next thing is that Gordon Brown's details have been hacked by the S*n and Sunday Times to 'get the scoop' on his son having cystic fibrosis.

And yet he was still desperate to cosy up to them to win votes.

Could you name a politician that isn't?

He also wasn't overly competent when it came to others' personal details; see the various data loss episodes throughout his tenure. But seems outraged when it happens to him.

That's a bit far... there's a significant difference between there being lax processes on his watch, and alledgedly active law breaking to try and dig.

I'm not condoning it but with there's nothing worse than hypocrites like Brown, Coogan and Grant claiming their pound of flesh.

I just don't get how they're being hypocritical?

There's a difference between celebs moaning about the tabloids watching their every move and taking pictures when they'd prefer not - and alledgedly accessing private data systems (email, voicemail etc) - which seems indefendable and crossing that legal barrier which should have told those alledgedly involved, that perhaps it was a step to far, and certainly well beyond any "freedom of the press" claim.

 

[technodup]

That's a bit far... there's a significant difference between there being lax processes on his watch, and alledgedly active law breaking to try and dig.

The means was different but the end the same. And it happened on his watch repeatedly, like the NOTW.

I don't get ho they're being hypocritical?

Brown for the arselicking and volte face. And Coogan and Grant for being law breakers themselves now revelling in someone else being caught out for wrongdoing. Two who use the media for their own ends and cry foul when it suits. Sanctimonious may be a better description in their cases.

Seems like I'm one of the few who genuinely couldn't give a **** what the NOTW did. Dowler and the like apart, I've absolutely no time for the affronted celebrities or politicians.

 

[Neil]

That's a bit far... there's a significant difference between there being lax processes on his watch, and alledgedly active law breaking to try and dig.

The means was different but the end the same. And it happened on his watch repeatedly, like the NOTW.

(shrug) incompetence of those he's ultimately responsible for, is no good thing. But doesn't offend my morals as much as deliberate, subverted, dubious activities.

I don't get ho they're being hypocritical?

Brown for the arselicking and volte face.

And a politician that's been at that level who hasn't?

And Coogan and Grant for being law breakers themselves now revelling in someone else being caught out for wrongdoing.

That's not how I saw it. The interview I saw involving Coogan, Dyke and McMullen, Coogan's perspective seemed to be there was no justification for the alledged law breaking involved in it - and rejecting the journos position about simple "freedom of the press".

Two who use the media for their own ends and cry foul when it suits. Sanctimonious may be a better description in their cases.

I'm not getting that. At least where Coogan was concerned, I watched the interview - Coogan made fair points, the journo just seemed to attempt a bit of handwaving and mithering about "freedom of the press". His comments never actually seemed to show any true cognition or mitigation for what has been claimed.

He merely looked desperate in trying to slight Coogan with some ad hominem things, which looked decidedly desperate and quite contextless.

Seems like I'm one of the few who genuinely couldn't give a f**k what the NOTW did. Dowler and the like apart,

That's the thing, though - it's the depths and measures they went to.

Perhaps if they hadn't gone to the depths of depravity they had, it may have been more easily hand-waved away.

I've absolutely no time for the affronted celebrities or politicians.

In general, I largely agree.

That said, I can't see any public interest into the digging into Brown's child.

And I can't for the life of me see a place in journalism for the claimed methods they used.

That truly was abhorrent, and it's no suprise that Murdoch sees the NOTW brand as damaged goods.

 

[technodup]

And a politician that's been at that level who hasn't?

The fact they all do it doesn't make it any better. This time it's Brown.

And I now read elsewhere that the cystic fibrosis story almost certainly wasn't by subterfuge and that it may have been deliberately planted to deflect attention from that day's 'bad news for Labour' story.

 

[tintin40]

but generally it seems blown out of proportion to me.

what a stupid thing to say