Autopilot Car Kills Driver!

[Jake]

In computer term the drives acknowledge he is now a test pilot and he's found a bug. Unfortunately he didn't realise the consequences of what that actually meant.

Fine for him, he volunteered.

 

[highlandsflyer]

Any road fatality makes the news. If there is anything unusual about it they tend to make the national news. At the extreme they make world news. This is a topical issue thanks to the scepticism about automating driving processes, so it has made the international headlines.

Perfectly normal.

 

[Muddy paw]

in my eyes it's not fully tested and certainly isn't 100% safe if the sensors fail to detect a white vehicle against the sky ..

Are you 100% safe? Is your neighbour, friend, colleague?

Nothing is 100% safe. Humans certainly aren't, which is largely the reason we need this tech (well that and huge profits obviously), so why expect a computer to work 100% of the time?

I'm in total agreement with you and the reason to expect a computer to work 100% of the time well is obviously to cover humans incapability of doing so as i thought the idea behind this was to avoid accidents not just reduce them otherwise why would you put your full trust in a system like this and yes a business without good profits couldn't make advancement's needed to pefect their products so of course the bigger the profit the better ..

 

[technodup]

I'm in total agreement with you

Not sure you are...

and the reason to expect a computer to work 100% of the time well is obviously to cover humans incapability of doing so as i thought the idea behind this was to avoid accidents not just reduce them otherwise why would you put your full trust in a system like this

I put my trust in pilots, bus drivers, train drivers, taxi drivers and other drivers and none of them are 100%, they all crash.

If this tech took road deaths from say 1000 to 100 you're still not happy because it's not 0? Are the 900 lives not worth saving?

 

[Adruzzz]

I wonder how this is going to pan out.

They will presumably blame the human..

A shocking experience i'm sure :facepalm:

 

[Muddy paw]

I'm in total agreement with you

Not sure you are...

and the reason to expect a computer to work 100% of the time well is obviously to cover humans incapability of doing so as i thought the idea behind this was to avoid accidents not just reduce them otherwise why would you put your full trust in a system like this

I put my trust in pilots, bus drivers, train drivers, taxi drivers and other drivers and none of them are 100%, they all crash.

If this tech took road deaths from say 1000 to 100 you're still not happy because it's not 0? Are the 900 lives not worth saving?

Yes i do agree that you'd like better safety and any one with any respect for life wouldn't want any body to come to any harm regardless of what transport they use and of course i'd be happier if this tech saved 900 more lives out of every 1000 but aren't the other 100 lives worth saving as lets face it i wouldn't want any body to be included in the 100 deaths out of 1000 and unfortunately i know i have high expectations where lives are concernd but i just hate the thought of any one loosing a friend or relative and no not every body crashes as their are a minority out there that just seem to be blessed with good luck when they drive or ride a bike and no i don't put my full trust in any one driving a vehicle or piloting an aircraft that i'm a passenger in although that doesn't mean i don't respect how good they are ..

 

[technodup]

of course i'd be happier if this tech saved 900 more lives out of every 1000 but aren't the other 100 lives worth saving as lets face it i wouldn't want any body to be included in the 100 deaths out of 1000 and unfortunately i know i have high expectations where lives are concernd but i just hate the thought of any one loosing a friend or relative

Everyone would prefer it to be 0, but it's never going to be. At the minute around 1m people are killed on the roads every year worldwide. IF technology could ultimately get that down to 100k that's 900k lives saved. The 100k were going to die anyway, as well as 900k others. I'm really struggling how you can't see that as a positive thing.

You seem to be saying we might as well keep the million deaths because the tech can't reduce them to zero. Which is obviously stupid.

and no not every body crashes as their are a minority

I didn't mean literally everybody crashes, but humans make mistakes, in every form of transport.

 

[videojetman]

On a positive point computers don't get drunk or stoned.
But we are never going to have a totally automated driverless society.

 

[Muddy paw]

I know this tech is designed to save lives which i'm all for but i still see it as being in the experimental stages and needs better sensors to reduce the chances of further accidents at least as for it cutting down deaths by 900k well thats a nice thought but would it really be a reality and further more how affordable will this become to everyone as tech like this won't be cheap and will require maintenance and upgrades with age and further advances in new programmes for the systems so will require specialist garages around the world and oh by the way can you prove the 100k are definitely going to die because if these advances in technology are progressing for the better than surely the death rate on roads would reduce wouldn't it .

 

[FluffyChicken]

I know this tech is designed to save lives which i'm all for but i still see it as being in the experimental stages and needs better sensors to reduce the chances of further accidents at least as for it cutting down deaths by 900k well thats a nice thought but would it really be a reality and further more how affordable will this become to everyone as tech like this won't be cheap and will require maintenance and upgrades with age and further advances in new programmes for the systems so will require specialist garages around the world and oh by the way can you prove the 100k are definitely going to die because if these advances in technology are progressing for the better than surely the death rate on roads would reduce wouldn't it .

Take these systems out of the large planes and see how many more accidents happen, how many hit each other, how many get to close. There are big plane highways up there all controlled by computers.

Unfortunately like all car safety, it takes time and experiments to find what happens and what doesn't work and what you may have missed.
It's been happening all the time, it may not be 'robotic cars'.
It will progress and the best place to do it is in the wild once it works in the lab.

It's the daft humans, get distracted easily, cannot and will not follow rules, that are the big problem.

To be fair axcidents, fatal, will go down as the roads all crawl to a snail's pace.
Automatic cars should become law so drivers do not have to have their mind on gear sticks at junctions.