Autopilot Car Kills Driver!

[fagin]

It's not an autopilot or driverless system. It's a glorified cruise control. Driver should have been concentrating.

From the tesla blog linked

"Autopilot “is an assist feature that requires you to keep your hands on the steering wheel at all times," and that "you need to maintain control and responsibility for your vehicle” while using it. Additionally, every time that Autopilot is engaged, the car reminds the driver to “Always keep your hands on the wheel. Be prepared to take over at any time.” The system also makes frequent checks to ensure that the driver's hands remain on the wheel and provides visual and audible alerts if hands-on is not detected. It then gradually slows down the car until hands-on is detected again."

 

[legrandefromage]

It's not an autopilot or driverless system. It's a glorified cruise control. Driver should have been concentrating.

From the tesla blog linked

"Autopilot “is an assist feature that requires you to keep your hands on the steering wheel at all times," and that "you need to maintain control and responsibility for your vehicle” while using it. Additionally, every time that Autopilot is engaged, the car reminds the driver to “Always keep your hands on the wheel. Be prepared to take over at any time.” The system also makes frequent checks to ensure that the driver's hands remain on the wheel and provides visual and audible alerts if hands-on is not detected. It then gradually slows down the car until hands-on is detected again."

yes, yes of course it does

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXls4cdEv7c[/youtube]

 

[mattr]

They're is a huge mismatch in what tesla have actually done, and what the public think that they have done.

 

[FluffyChicken]

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Odd how this is being talked about, yet the countless other people killed from humans being in control of the cars gets no mention ;-)

 

[highlandsflyer]

Odd you should think 'normal' fatalities don't make the news, or that this is not extra newsworthy given the direction of the technology. Next it might be a school bus plowed into by a truck, because the sun was setting. Would that be newsworthy enough?

 

[M-Power]

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Not being able to detect the diff between a white vehicle and the sky....is a bit of an issue :facepalm: This technology will only work if a whole lot of them are running on their own road, networked together.

Sure Elon has a lawyer ready to prove the driver was clinically insane anyway.

 

[Muddy paw]

It's not an autopilot or driverless system. It's a glorified cruise control. Driver should have been concentrating.

I'm inclined to agree with this and this level of technology is good but just not quite their yet as it should be capable of completely taking over from the driver and parking up some where safe if the driver falls asleep or if the driver suffered a fit or has a heart attack then drive to the nearest hospital but in my eyes it's not fully tested and certainly isn't 100% safe if the sensors fail to detect a white vehicle against the sky ..

 

[mattr]

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you can never come up with all the situations that a car faces in real traffic. There is just no substitute for real-life testing.

Well, actually you can come pretty close if you do it properly. Properly completed FMEAs, following guidelines from ISO26262,actually sitting down and thinking about what you want it to do before starting to create the systems. Which is what Tesla haven't done.

Speaking to a colleague today (who works on stuff like this), most manufacturers have all the systems in their top end cars that Tesla have used in their "autopilot" system. Very very few of them call it anything like "autopilot". As thats misleading. As someone else mentioned, it's just a tarted up active cruise control with front looking radar and lane departure assistance. Not autonomous drive.
The processors/computing kit needed to do Autonomous drive is serious hardware.

This technology will only work if a whole lot of them are running on their own road, networked together.

Nah, it'll work on the public highway, eventually. There are limitations obviously, but smart cars will eventually work with dumb cars, and dumb drivers.

And IIRC the legal framework and description of an autonomous car covers stuff like falling a sleep and such like.

 

[FluffyChicken]

Odd you should think 'normal' fatalities don't make the news, or that this is not extra newsworthy given the direction of the technology. Next it might be a school bus plowed into by a truck, because the sun was setting. Would that be newsworthy enough?

They just don't make the news, there are 4 to 5 people on average killed on the roads every day. They just don't make the news.

This is just somebody not driving their car properly and relying on tech to do it for them. That's the news here, just yet another daily death on the roads.

In computer term the drives acknowledge he is now a test pilot and he's found a bug. Unfortunately he didn't realise the consequences of what that actually meant.

 

[technodup]

in my eyes it's not fully tested and certainly isn't 100% safe if the sensors fail to detect a white vehicle against the sky ..

Are you 100% safe? Is your neighbour, friend, colleague?

Nothing is 100% safe. Humans certainly aren't, which is largely the reason we need this tech (well that and huge profits obviously), so why expect a computer to work 100% of the time?