Would site owners ever consider reform the categories?

The History Man

Retrobike Rider
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Retro post 98 must have 26” wheels? Keeps 98+ Botm simple
Modern post 98 everything else bicycle shaped regardless of wheel size, power source with no exclusions? MBotm

four categories then

Botm (pre 31/12/97)
Rbotm (pre31/12/97)

Modern Botm post 98 anything goes. But non assisted.
This section could include anything but not in the competition. Eventually e bike bolt on systems will be retro.


Retro Guru
And that is where the fun starts as there is no clear date.

e.g. Frame angles, started slack, became steeper, and are now going slacker again
e.g. Suspension, amoung others I have a ‘94/95 full sus, a ‘96 hard tail and a ‘97 fully rigid

As such, the cutoff we have now have seems about right even though my ‘98 Kilauea is technically outside the cutoff, it hasn’t stopped me riding and enjoying it on Retrobike rides.
Yep. I knew people riding full suspension in the early to mid 1990s, but they were statistical outliers rather than the norm. It only works if you consider what the big brands and large volume manufacturers were making at that time and selling most. And people on this forum are perhaps not the best to ask, because many are the owners of relatively rare retro bikes, that are not really representative of the type of mountain bike that sold in huge numbers during the 1990s. If I think back to the people I rode with in the early to mid 1990s, most were on fully rigid, and a few had front suspension. The number on full suspension at that time was absolutely tiny, but maybe that's because the people I knew, despite putting all their spare cash into mountain bikes, still didn't have enough for full suspension.

disc's were before V-Brakes...
Were discs mainstream or niche at that point? I suppose one indicator of when discs really took over was that bikes were factory built with rims that had no braking surface, and high end components such as rims with ceramic braking surfaces started disappearing from product catalogues.


Retrobike Rider
Think of the time frames.
In the 80s and MTB became a category of bikes to sell mainly around the mid 80s by 88/89 MTB had matured to be sold more widely to everyday people kids and their dads, mainly as groupset matured.
Shimano and Suntour brought out complete proper groupsets hence popularity could start.
A yearish later, STI and GripShifts, full suspension, front suspension, Threadless, yet more speeds, clipless pedals.. Discs emerging.
V-brakes took over from Canti's as the rim brake but disc wasn't long after as main stream. By early 00's
That's all really within 10-15years.

Only real change since then is wheel sizes, hydroforming and carbon as a normal material and method for frames.
Everything else has evolved but nothing major.

You could include clutch mechs, as that changed things for a lot of people (you can tell when they moan about not having one). Similar for HT2 style crank setups, all done before but now mainstream and completely replaced the bottom bracket setup.

Electrical assist of course.

But anyway, I think that's why people tend to forget the 00s so much.
It's a bit bland bar frame technology and the end of the 'normal' groupsets like the M770/780 before all hell let loose in the 10s with incompatibility, fixing methods and options. But that's ten years of not much, just a gradual 'better'.

I think the 10s has been more of a standards format and change in the MTB setup.