1998 Orange P7 Tourer/ATB

Having the option to change your bar position after a few days would be good.

I did one long ride, after a few days wishing my stem was several cm shorter and the bars several cm higher, but didn't have the adjustment.

Maximum adjustment comes from both 1) spacers above and below the stem, and 2) having a multi position bar that can rotate in the stem and bring hand position forward or backwards and up and down.

So I like this type of bars for long distances.
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/handleb...position-handlebars-254mm-clamp-silver-590mm/

And agree that replacing the brakes with standard V brakes probably a good idea. And I'm very envious of your trip!
 
Having the option to change your bar position after a few days would be good.

I did one long ride, after a few days wishing my stem was several cm shorter and the bars several cm higher, but didn't have the adjustment.

Maximum adjustment comes from both 1) spacers above and below the stem, and 2) having a multi position bar that can rotate in the stem and bring hand position forward or backwards and up and down.

So I like this type of bars for long distances.
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/handleb...position-handlebars-254mm-clamp-silver-590mm/

And agree that replacing the brakes with standard V brakes probably a good idea. And I'm very envious of your trip!
I'm gonna get a bar with some decent rise so I can adjust reach on the fly, and then I can always lift my stem 10-15mm or so with some spacers that I can just chuck in my bag.

Got a ride through the peak district in 2 weeks so should be a good shakedown. :)
 
Here's where I got with it today. VO Happy stem came in the post and fitted it. I'm obviously still learning about bike fit and after looking at some photos of 90s mountain bikes built as bikepacking/touring rigs I noticed that hardly anyone has bars much higher than the saddle, and when they do, it's usually just by an inch at most.

I was trying to match the fit to my other bike that I cycled to Bristol on, but turns out it doesn't work that way. I had 100mm of spacers on this along with this stem and it just felt like a completley upright bike, way more upright than my Kona, despite the rough measurements being the same. The top tube is shorter on this and the headtube slacker and I suppose that influences fit quite a lot! I slowly lowered the bars down, and ended up cutting 25mm off of the steerer tube and I've ended up with this, the bars just a smidge higher than the saddle.

It feels really, really good like this. I've never ridden a bike that I feel so in control of. Standing up on the pedals feels super effortless and I'm able to move my body weight around really comfortably. I'm planning to get a riser bar to allow for more reach adjustment anyway, so I'm thinking to cut the head tube more and knock it down 40mm or so. Then with a smidge of saddle nose up/down and setting the position on the rails right, I think I'll have a bike that fits!

Ordered a Pelago Commuter front rack too, and went a slightly different path with my front bag choices. Will be revealed soon!

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Some detail shots! Gonna go for a proper shakedown today and get the rest of the bike cabled up. It's frustrating that my saddle doesn't match but it's hard to justify the cost of a matching one!
 

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Some detail shots! Gonna go for a proper shakedown today and get the rest of the bike cabled up. It's frustrating that my saddle doesn't match but it's hard to justify the cost of a matching one!
Coming along nicely👍

Just to say your chainring orientation looks out.
The tabs on one space between the mounting arms are meant to line up with the crank - or in this case with the "hidden" bolt opposite :
20250504_131047.webp so the outer ring is good, but the middle is one arm out - they should be next to each other.

Misalignment upsets the tooth alignment with the chain on shifting, and the position of the cut down teeth and pickup pins - this can cause skating and slipping, as well as poor shifting, it's a common reason for people thinking front indexing is no good😉
 
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Coming along nicely👍

Just to say your chainring orientation looks out.
The tabs on one space between the mounting arms are meant to line up with the crank - or in this case with the "hidden" bolt opposite :
View attachment 957721so the outer ring is good, but the middle is one arm out - they should be next to each other.

Misalignment upsets the tooth alignment with the chain on shifting, and the position of the cut down teeth and pickup pins - this can cause skating and slipping, as well as poor shifting, it's a common reason for people thinking front indexing is no good😉
Damn, good spot. Will fix that now! Thanks.
 
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