1993 Manitou FS Beneke project

[chefmiguel]

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Great bike, watching with interest. I like the Manitou3 fork in Manitou2 disguise.

 

[Davichin]

I checked a Manitou 4 that I have unused but the stanchions are not "dark"... I will have to search for a M3

 

[Huelse]

In German BIKE magazine July 1994 is a two page review of Jürgens bike and he talks about it.
The chainring guard seems to be homemade:
" I drive only two chainrings. A small 24t for uphill, and a 48t for the race. For not loosing the chain, I mount a special alloy disc, in which the chain runs. Looks good and works perfect".
And no front derailleur!
A few more specs from that article: BB Kingsberry titanium, headset and rear hub also Kingsberry, frt hub Manitou. In early season XTR crank, later AC. Rims Ritchey Pro WCS, tires Verdestein Slizzer, pictured fork is a Manitou3, but the specs say Manitou4 with cartridge daming unit (efc proto internals), same in the rear. Total weight 11.4 kg.

 

[Davichin]

In German BIKE magazine July 1994 is a two page review of Jürgens bike and he talks about it.
The chainring guard seems to be homemade:
" I drive only two chainrings. A small 24t for uphill, and a 48t for the race. For not loosing the chain, I mount a special alloy disc, in which the chain runs. Looks good and works perfect".
And no front derailleur!
A few more specs from that article: BB Kingsberry titanium, headset and rear hub also Kingsberry, frt hub Manitou. In early season XTR crank, later AC. Rims Ritchey Pro WCS, tires Verdestein Slizzer, pictured fork is a Manitou3, but the specs say Manitou4 with cartridge daming unit (efc proto internals), same in the rear. Total weight 11.4 kg.

Thank you very much Huelse . I read that article but it is for the Manitou3 1994 version bike, and a little bit incoherent/inconsistent in that it stays those specs but then, in the same page, the bike picture shows Mavic rims, ZMAX WCS front tyre, IRC rear tyre, M900 cranks... :roll: Like I said, I thought there would be a lot of info on the internet but there is not :?

 

[Retro Spud]

In German BIKE magazine July 1994 is a two page review of Jürgens bike and he talks about it.
The chainring guard seems to be homemade:
" I drive only two chainrings. A small 24t for uphill, and a 48t for the race. For not loosing the chain, I mount a special alloy disc, in which the chain runs. Looks good and works perfect".
And no front derailleur!
A few more specs from that article: BB Kingsberry titanium, headset and rear hub also Kingsberry, frt hub Manitou. In early season XTR crank, later AC. Rims Ritchey Pro WCS, tires Verdestein Slizzer, pictured fork is a Manitou3, but the specs say Manitou4 with cartridge daming unit (efc proto internals), same in the rear. Total weight 11.4 kg.

Thank you very much Huelse . I read that article but it is for the Manitou3 1994 version bike, and a little bit incoherent/inconsistent in that it stays those specs but then, in the same page, the bike picture shows Mavic rims, ZMAX WCS front tyre, IRC rear tyre, M900 cranks... :roll: Like I said, I thought there would be a lot of info on the internet but there is not :?

without patronising you, as you already point this out above ^^^

Your just going to have to settle for one picture and say thats the one my builds based upon, no doubt the bike was constantly evolving and spec would have changed every race... afteral it was just a tool to do a job with.

 

[Davichin]

In German BIKE magazine July 1994 is a two page review of Jürgens bike and he talks about it.
The chainring guard seems to be homemade:
" I drive only two chainrings. A small 24t for uphill, and a 48t for the race. For not loosing the chain, I mount a special alloy disc, in which the chain runs. Looks good and works perfect".
And no front derailleur!
A few more specs from that article: BB Kingsberry titanium, headset and rear hub also Kingsberry, frt hub Manitou. In early season XTR crank, later AC. Rims Ritchey Pro WCS, tires Verdestein Slizzer, pictured fork is a Manitou3, but the specs say Manitou4 with cartridge daming unit (efc proto internals), same in the rear. Total weight 11.4 kg.

Thank you very much Huelse . I read that article but it is for the Manitou3 1994 version bike, and a little bit incoherent/inconsistent in that it stays those specs but then, in the same page, the bike picture shows Mavic rims, ZMAX WCS front tyre, IRC rear tyre, M900 cranks... :roll: Like I said, I thought there would be a lot of info on the internet but there is not :?

without patronising you, as you already point this out above ^^^

Your just going to have to settle for one picture and say thats the one my builds based upon, no doubt the bike was constantly evolving and spec would have changed every race... afteral it was just a tool to do a job with.

You are right . I more or less have most of the things I would like to use thought out, even though I have not found an info pic like:

Pics from http://lagaleria-retrobici.blogspot.com ... onato.html

 

[Davichin]

Today I arrived at Santander and started to work on the forks... Tasty:



New elastomers are in order as expected... I also need the long allen wrench to fully dismount the elastomer rod.

And I also had to use the force to take out the stuck headset adaptar that the previous owner fit:

 

[Davichin]

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Allen wrench found, fork disassembled, rear susp also disassembled with totally mushy elastomers that took some work to clean...

Rear gum:





I already ordered both elastomer replacement kits (they seem expensive for what they are IMHO, specially compared to what retro forks go these days :roll: )...

 

[unit3]

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Doing well with progress so far mate.

You are right about the replacement elastimers being expensive, I have home grown spring kits in a couple of my manitou forks, work well

What size is that steerer adaptor?

 

[Davichin]

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Doing well with progress so far mate.

You are right about the replacement elastimers being expensive, I have home grown spring kits in a couple of my manitou forks, work well

What size is that steerer adaptor?

Thank you! I thought about springs too but I preferred elastomers for this one
Steerer adapter is 28.6mm x 135mm straight gauge (so it came with an extra pipe section for the Manitou 1-1/4 stem to fit)