Rolf Harris found guilty

Until we have actual punishment like castration or death it doesn't really make any difference. Paedos should hang. How does an extra few months or years on a sentence have any real effect on the paedo, give the victim any closure or improve public confidence?

One offence and I'd lock them up for life in a non segregated ward- let them take their chances with prison justice. For these historic multiple offenders they need their balls cutting off with a rusty knife then dangle them from a rope.

If we look east there's a whole range of creative punishments, whipping, stoning, chopping of hands etc. All we've got is prison, suspendeds i.e. threat of prison, or community service. None of which are appropriate for many crimes, Rolf's included.
 
There's a prevalent view at the moment that paedoism and that sort of thing isn't criminal, butis in actual fact distinct form of sexuality itself. If this is true, then punishment won't make a jot of difference. However, while they're locked up then ordinary decent folk at safe, and its this public protect aspect to sentencing that is so often overlooked these days.
 
Chopper1192":2goro9wm said:
However, while they're locked up then ordinary decent folk at safe, and its this public protect aspect to sentencing that is so often overlooked these days.
They'd be more protected if the paedos were dead.
 
Chopper1192":3gzxkf00 said:
There's a prevalent view at the moment that paedoism and that sort of thing isn't criminal, butis in actual fact distinct form of sexuality itself.

I think you have made a meal of this in some way. How could anyone suggest it is not criminal?
 
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Hopefully the police get to the bottom of the Tory/Westminster paedo ring. I wont hold my breath.
 
Define 'prevalent' in your context. I'd say that the 'prevalent view' amongst the general public would be somewhat different.
 
highlandsflyer":1s3zr8yc said:
Chopper1192":1s3zr8yc said:
There's a prevalent view at the moment that paedoism and that sort of thing isn't criminal, butis in actual fact distinct form of sexuality itself.

I think you have made a meal of this in some way. How could anyone suggest it is not criminal?

You'd have to ask the people currently touting this theory directly, because I myself don't agree with it.

I subscribe to the unofficial FBI view of aberrant or persistent criminality - " once a ****sucker, always a *****sucker."

Prevalent - of the current theories for such criminality being touted in scientific, policy making and social work circles, this is undoubtedly the most talked about, most touted and - if what I hear as I move in the fringes of these areas of endeavour is duplicated elsewhere - the most believed theory in these communities. I think it's utter b******s myself, and never suggest otherwise. I would agree that the prevalent view of the public is probably rather different, but I wasn't talking about the views of the public.
 
Chopper1192":20un3iy0 said:
highlandsflyer":20un3iy0 said:
Chopper1192":20un3iy0 said:
There's a prevalent view at the moment that paedoism and that sort of thing isn't criminal, butis in actual fact distinct form of sexuality itself.

I think you have made a meal of this in some way. How could anyone suggest it is not criminal?

You'd have to ask the people currently touting this theory directly, because I myself don't agree with it.

I subscribe to the unofficial FBI view of aberrant or persistent criminality - " once a ****sucker, always a *****sucker."

Prevalent - of the current theories for such criminality being touted in scientific, policy making and social work circles, this is undoubtedly the most talked about, most touted and - if what I hear as I move in the fringes of these areas of endeavour is duplicated elsewhere - the most believed theory in these communities. I think it's utter b******s myself, and never suggest otherwise. I would agree that the prevalent view of the public is probably rather different, but I wasn't talking about the views of the public.

I am none the wiser. How can redefining the act itself, in whatever way, change its status in criminal terms? They are two separate things.
 
technodup":8rg00bes said:
Until we have actual punishment like castration or death it doesn't really make any difference. Paedos should hang. How does an extra few months or years on a sentence have any real effect on the paedo, give the victim any closure or improve public confidence?

One offence and I'd lock them up for life in a non segregated ward- let them take their chances with prison justice. For these historic multiple offenders they need their balls cutting off with a rusty knife then dangle them from a rope.

If we look east there's a whole range of creative punishments, whipping, stoning, chopping of hands etc. All we've got is prison, suspendeds i.e. threat of prison, or community service. None of which are appropriate for many crimes, Rolf's included.

You're talking some sense here, but given your prior posting history I think you're more looking for a justifiable excuse to cause suffering than anything else. You've certainly relished the prospect of people suffering in the past, even without them being rapists or nonces, or even adults.

We can fantasize about putting the boot in all we like, but we should probably do something about what it is that puts the idea in so many men's heads that they can do this sort of thing in the first place.

A good first step would be pulling the rug from under the "nobody will believe you" tactic. I've seen more than enough cases of evil raping sods get off scott free because the victim wasn't "credible" to the entirely uninterested desk jockey they reported it to.
 
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