phasing out of 'traditional' light bulbs

[David B]

Well I like energy saving lights. Have them where ever possible including in the man cave.

No quibbles with energy-saving bulbs from me either (have had more than my fair share of bother with migraines, but fluorescent lighting isn't one of the triggers). The very idea of them seems to put the wind up "Maily Express" types, which is A Good Thing in my book. :evil:

David

 

[Iwasgoodonce]

Thing I dont understand is we replaced candles and gaslight, which as well as a fire risk gave off such poor light that many folk ruined their eyesight

How so? "ruined their eyesight" that is?

Many poorly paid day labourers and women had to supplement their wages by taking on night work. For many this was weaving and sewing/embroidary. Imagine doing this vey intricate work for hours each night with only homemade candle light to work by.

 

[tintin40]

We get the normal bulbs from the asian budget d.i.y shops 3 for a £1 bought a load at the weekend.

We did have a low energy last the same period of my first marriage. Fitted it in the kitchen the day we moved in to our first place. The day after i moved out the bulb went 7 1/2 yrs not bad for a bulb

Low energy bulb & fluorescent last longer when left on for more than 2 hours and work out cheeper if left on for longer than 2 hours. Other wise they are more expensive.
They are not has bright but the 'warm' up time is a lot shorter now.
Hence why shops etc use them and leave them on in the windows etc.

 

[silverclaws]

Currently daylight balanced bulbs for me, which is the old type, the so called artist's light. I use them because of sleep and mood problems in the winter, and daylight affects the amount of melatonin I produce, which is the trigger for feeling sleepy and going to sleep.

But in a home devoid of central heating, tungsten filament bulbs also aid with the heating. I do have a few fluorescent bulbs but as others said, a wan pale cold light that does not cut the edge in the air, they also periodicaly flash when off, which is annoying.

 

[FMJ]

I use them in the garage and they are just bloody awful, take ages to come on and offer a very flat light.

Like regular fluorescent bulbs, CF bulbs do not like the cold, and can lose as much as 50% of their efficiency when the temperature drops significantly. There are also (controversial) studies that are saying the higher EM emissions from the bulbs is making susceptible people sick. Incandescent bulbs are being phased out here as well. Instead of complaining , I have been stocking up on bulbs. I've got 20+ boxes (of 4) each of 25s, 60s, and 100s, as well as ample replacements of all the odd bathroom fixture, kitchen light, and living room pots to last me till I'm dead. If you don't like the CF bulbs, get busy and buy incandescent bulbs now before the deadline closes and there's a mad rush to buy them.

http://chemicalsoup.wordpress.com/2...rescent-cfl-bulbs-can-they-be-making-us-sick/

 

[Supratada]

Call me cynical, but I bet it won't be long before you can't get an energy certificate for your house if it has incandescent bulbs in it, forcing people to buy them if they want to move house.

I once attended a seminar on the new Building Regs back in 1999 ish, and the guy seemed to be intimating that Phillips had sewn up a very nice deal for themselves with the EU.

 

[legrandefromage]

I'm not usre but has anyone noticed the quality of normal bulbs has gone down a bit almost deliberately?

 

[David B]

Call me cynical, but I bet it won't be long before you can't get an energy certificate for your house if it has incandescent bulbs in it, forcing people to buy them if they want to move house.

Although exceptionally mean-spirited folk would take all the light bulbs with them when they moved house anyway, regardless of the type.

David

 

[tee-one]

Im all up for saving energy... Its less pennies from my pocket after all. But like others have said, We need a decent system in place first before the old one is replaced.

With the Eu is just more and more steps back in the name of the environment and not offending anyone... Be living in caves again soon

 

[The Ken]

I'm not usre but has anyone noticed the quality of normal bulbs has gone down a bit almost deliberately?

Yes, most definately, you used to also be able to buy better if you wanted as they listed hours lifespan like halogen bulbs.

I hate the new bulbs - no warmth and can't be dimmed, they cost a hellavu lot more environmentally to make and dispose of (even recycling), they last nowhere near the years on the box as that is assumed at 1-2 hours a day.... and they don't last that 4000 hours either.

If you smash one the recommendation is to evacuate the room for 15 mins while the mercury settles but there is no warning on the box for that here.

And you can't put them in the bucket if you smash them because of the disposal risks - how many people are going to take a single broken bulb to a recycling centre?

You get them cheap in Tescos and the like but those prices will rocket as soon as the others are banned.