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Oh no! The Orange website has crashed. May be from the interest the 25 has generated. Damn, I won't be able look at it for a while.
History of the Orange Clockwork.
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not that my opinion is worth a fart in a windy tunnel, its not got me excited. it looks too much everything else. Original paintjob would have been fun but it doesnt speak to my wallet. And the CEN excuse smells wiffy.
highlandsflyer":2s2cecld said:
That would have been a sublime bike in 953. they could have even had Dave Yates build it (like so many others bitd).
Signature builds truly worthy of a 25th anniversary badge.
Sadly this is a profit exercise.
2.5k? I cant be bothered to do the research but I'm guessing I could have a just as iconic Dogs Bolx with a decent build for that.
Or a Cotic Rocket (now made in UK
) with a decent build.
http://singletrackworld.com/2014/01/str ... g-limited/
Or a Cotic Rocket (now made in UK
) with a decent build. http://singletrackworld.com/2014/01/str ... g-limited/
Getting Kevin Winter to TIG up 25 of these in Reynolds 725 would have been cool, 650B is what I'd have gone for.
Apart from making a quick buck out of a name I don't understand the point of this ally orange clockwork.
The Orange 5 has soul, this doesn't even dripping in purple anno hope bling.
Apart from making a quick buck out of a name I don't understand the point of this ally orange clockwork.
The Orange 5 has soul, this doesn't even dripping in purple anno hope bling.
CTK":1udia1q2 said:2.5k? I cant be bothered to do the research but I'm guessing I could have a just as iconic Dogs Bolx with a decent build for that.
Or a Cotic Rocket (now made in UK
http://singletrackworld.com/2014/01/str ... g-limited/
Agreed.
And the Cotic BML...is just fantastic news....
Coleman":2sijajwz said:
To be fair, 725 tube is definitely more clockwork correct. And lets face it, any Uk builder could knock up 25 tig welded frames with a few nice modern touches, for not a great deal of money.
But then I suspect, these alloy frames are for nothing anyway.
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Having just looked at the 25 online again, I think as bike in its own right, it looks good, but looks like any other over priced modern 'superbike' around today. However, I feel Orange have really missed or fudged the opportunity to celebrate the Clockwork and pay homage to its spirit, as we know and love it.
I don't buy their argument about the EU issue regarding steel frames as there are quite a few UK bespoke frame makers about. RetroBike is testimony to the long term structural integrity of steel framed bikes. Hell, mine's survived nearly 25 years and it's still good – it might even out last my physical ability to ride. I think they could have at least commissioned 25 finely crafted quality light steel frames from an artisan builder in the UK, if they didn't want to tool up themselves to make it. But looking at their resources, I think they could have done it.
I do get the the silver anniversary theme, but a classic orange and white fade would have been great. May be an orange and silver fade. I think they should gone for silver rims with ss spokes, instead of the black rims, to be consistent with the silver theme. I think for the effort they've gone to with special monogrammed components, they could have anodised them orange instead (not that I've got anything against purple parts).
And then there's the price. That's having a laugh. I'd be slightly more inclined to get the regular orange Clockwork out of their range.
I don't buy their argument about the EU issue regarding steel frames as there are quite a few UK bespoke frame makers about. RetroBike is testimony to the long term structural integrity of steel framed bikes. Hell, mine's survived nearly 25 years and it's still good – it might even out last my physical ability to ride. I think they could have at least commissioned 25 finely crafted quality light steel frames from an artisan builder in the UK, if they didn't want to tool up themselves to make it. But looking at their resources, I think they could have done it.
I do get the the silver anniversary theme, but a classic orange and white fade would have been great. May be an orange and silver fade. I think they should gone for silver rims with ss spokes, instead of the black rims, to be consistent with the silver theme. I think for the effort they've gone to with special monogrammed components, they could have anodised them orange instead (not that I've got anything against purple parts).
And then there's the price. That's having a laugh. I'd be slightly more inclined to get the regular orange Clockwork out of their range.
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I simply think it's an easy way for them to mark 25 years, nothing more then that.
They already do a model called the Clockwork so that was always going to be the base.
Profit driven? Nah, they'd make more then 25 if that was the case.
I wonder if they got their fingers burnt with the 2007 as in it was a new model, custom painted (after a bodge in the far east I seem to remember?), and not sold at a huge mark up. Bet when you factor in R&D + man hours they didn't make much, if anything at all on them.
Why spend money and time getting a flash steel frame handbuilt? Imagine how much that full bike would cost! Who would buy it? I seem to remember hearing they had trouble shifting the limited edition Vit T they did a few years back due to the cost.
It was mentioned on here before that the most iconic bike Orange have ever produced for most riders now is the 5 (we're all old).
An easy way to produce a rare bike for a handful of die hard fans with deep pockets that causes them little cost, time or risk is how I see it.
They already do a model called the Clockwork so that was always going to be the base.
Profit driven? Nah, they'd make more then 25 if that was the case.
I wonder if they got their fingers burnt with the 2007 as in it was a new model, custom painted (after a bodge in the far east I seem to remember?), and not sold at a huge mark up. Bet when you factor in R&D + man hours they didn't make much, if anything at all on them.
Why spend money and time getting a flash steel frame handbuilt? Imagine how much that full bike would cost! Who would buy it? I seem to remember hearing they had trouble shifting the limited edition Vit T they did a few years back due to the cost.
It was mentioned on here before that the most iconic bike Orange have ever produced for most riders now is the 5 (we're all old).
An easy way to produce a rare bike for a handful of die hard fans with deep pockets that causes them little cost, time or risk is how I see it.
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