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Seem to remember them saying they didn't rule out a return to steel when they stopped the P7, just they were not making one that year. I guess if the market demands it they will make it.
Sylus, I know where you're coming from but in some ways see their argument for the new one being a modern version of the original i.e produce a reasonably priced bike using the material of choice for the price range that can be used for a wide spectrum riding. 29" wheels fits in with the club racer/tourer/all dayer image these days. As much as we might not like it the new one does fit the brief of the original.
When it first came out I didn't like the use of the name Clockwork but I've softened since then. Isn't the change of a classic name from steel to alu just what every one else did in the late 90's? How many of the classic names that you can still buy are steel rather then alu? Alu's not safe either as isn't the Zaskar now carbon?
As for the other old Orange names, the 'O' became the O2/3/etc and the Elite the E2/3/4/etc before becoming the Elite again the other year. They did a limited Vitamin T and Prestige around 2008. They still use the old names so I guess they though Clockwork needed an airing again. I'd have thought they'd save the name P7 for any future steel bike with that being the longest continual steel frame they did but who knows. What I do know is that they seem to drop a couple of the Far East frames every year and increase the hand built FS production so that must be where the money is.
As for the new ones being over priced.... I agree they are not cheap but when discussing this on STW the other year I proved that the spec Orange do is very similar to the big boys in any given price bracket. They can't compete with Canyon, Boardman, YT etc but then neither can Specialized, Trek, Giant etc.
Sylus, I know where you're coming from but in some ways see their argument for the new one being a modern version of the original i.e produce a reasonably priced bike using the material of choice for the price range that can be used for a wide spectrum riding. 29" wheels fits in with the club racer/tourer/all dayer image these days. As much as we might not like it the new one does fit the brief of the original.
When it first came out I didn't like the use of the name Clockwork but I've softened since then. Isn't the change of a classic name from steel to alu just what every one else did in the late 90's? How many of the classic names that you can still buy are steel rather then alu? Alu's not safe either as isn't the Zaskar now carbon?
As for the other old Orange names, the 'O' became the O2/3/etc and the Elite the E2/3/4/etc before becoming the Elite again the other year. They did a limited Vitamin T and Prestige around 2008. They still use the old names so I guess they though Clockwork needed an airing again. I'd have thought they'd save the name P7 for any future steel bike with that being the longest continual steel frame they did but who knows. What I do know is that they seem to drop a couple of the Far East frames every year and increase the hand built FS production so that must be where the money is.
As for the new ones being over priced.... I agree they are not cheap but when discussing this on STW the other year I proved that the spec Orange do is very similar to the big boys in any given price bracket. They can't compete with Canyon, Boardman, YT etc but then neither can Specialized, Trek, Giant etc.
