Are Steel stems, bars, seat posts safer? Discuss...

yeah i know theres been a few snapped cranks
an dodgey turbine stem plates which were fixed an now fine

i am yet to see any bars broken an cant find any on google
in alu or carbon yet due to use or crash i say yet surly some1 has
destroyed a set crashing but have any snapped
when installed properly? have any snapped
when numptys over tighten the stem bolts?

yet to find anything like this an like i said in other another post
i have many of rf bars an stems some old (15yrs another 10 years etc) an 2007 an modern dues stems evolve stems even prodigy
never snapped nothing an ive abused them
an there all still solid
 
Ive never seen a snapped bar from use only in crash damage. Ive never heard of a bar failing in use :? Im sure there have been but is it that common ? and would there not have been circumstances surrounding the use at the time ?
Ive seen people jump 15 feet on a monster T and when it crumpled declared that is was rubbish(never understood this)

Steel rusts and given its going to be hidden inside the bar which will be sealed ,you cant really take note of it. Most certainly not a fit and forget, and its overly heavy compared to whats available now. I would think development of a steel bar didnt really happen.Straight maybe a rise or sweep but nothing happened towards light and strong :?
The alloys use now have been developed and tested with new improvements made to the alloy itself and how its shape affects its strength .
Plus alloy bars have been tested to death in competition where strength above all was paramount :? The bikes these are being tested for will be seriously hammered and i would guess the equivalent strength in steel would make it either too heavy or too expensive.
 
Most bikes don't get enough use over a long enough period of time to get into fatigue failures. Any failure is going to be infrequent enough that it can be disregarded as a statistical blip. Only bars I've seen fail through use are one fairly basic light weight sleeved ti bar being used by a 14 stone gym freak, for several years. Too tight fisted to take note of the endless creaking. That just went ping as he was riding to work. And one maybe two rf bars that were supplied as part of a deal (maybe team? Can't remember!). But they were used day in, day out for a season. Mine survived as I was lucky enough to have a training bike. The race bike only got used a couple of times a week.
 
Worked in Halfords 94 -00 as a cycle mechanic / sale assistant (before bike hut, when I had to bring my own kit from home to do some jobs), I've seen a fair few crumpled frames, snapped bars and shattered wheels...but that's what happens when you give a £150 bike to a teenager. Quality is in the engineering be it steel, aluminium or other wise... but things wear out...right kit for the job...

For me alloy fixtures and fittings have never been an issue...and the weight benefits are plain to see...
 
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