Another useful quiz

[dbmtb]

I believe a lot of the problems we have with a benefit culture might very well stem from incorrect schooling, or schooling that has failed to capture the interest of those who have abilities elsewhere because the emphasis is on right brained individuals.

While relevant, I'm sure it's nowhere near as simple as that.

 

[silverclaws]

I am only drawing on my own family, education wise we are not academic, but success wise we are, and all of us are artists in our own right, except perhaps for me, but the future is bright for I am as far as the family is concerned multi talented but fearful of my own success.

But I will let it stand, many a dosser, thug or general ass hole I have encountered who bears ill will to the society that shuns them are very talented individuals in the art that appeals to them most, but the belief is from these people that an ability in art means nothing to society when society does not understand they that stand before it.

We as a people in general always expect the worst of people before we look for the best. That being, I suppose we deserve what we get as negativity has a habit of attracting yet more negativity.

 

[IDB1]

We as a people in general always expect the worst of people before we look for the best.

I believe that people are fundamentally good and will do me no harm.
Time and time again I have been let down and yet still maintain this belief.
Now, however, people have less opportunity since I tend to keep a safe distance.

 

[Neil]

Dont you get fed up with all the labels for things nowadays,when I was at school if you could not spell you were just stupid,now dyslexic.

Baby and bathwater, there.

If you have dyslexia (not that I have) you're not stupid - you have some real, tangible, reasons why some aspects of language and literacy are a challenge.

I suspect there's no correlation, whatsoever, in lack of intelligence for these people.

So old-school mentality is particularly unhelpful, in simply labelling them "stupid" which seems ironic, given you're apparent annoyance with a different - yet more accurate and helpful - label.

That was the problem with something like dyslexia - in past times people were given up on, or dismissed as stupid or unable to learn - when really their only problem may well have been some issues with how some people are wired to deal with words and language.

If you were naughty you were dissobedient,now adhd.

Recent scientific evidence is showing biological evidence for ADHD.

In understand your underlying point, but as I said, baby and bathwater - perhaps you picked two bad examples, or perhaps you just want to rant - but it seems a rather shaky argument with the choices you've made to attack.

I am absolutley sick of the rubbish :x

1. How does it affect you personally?
2. Head / sand.

As to the quiz, well there's a fairly long history in some of these types of assessments, some have reasonable rationale behind them.

 

[silverclaws]

Interesting that others are getting th same score as me, so what could that say the test is rigged or those that are doing it are indeed no hemisphere dominant. But then why are we at retrobike, what is it that attracts certain people to this place, what is it about old bikes.

I have an idea, a beautiful combination of aesthetics and engineering, a combination of art and science, an interest that encompasses both hemispheres left and right, full brain dominance, the ability to be sympathetic to both sides at the same time.

How many times has anyone read others commenting on beautiful welds on frames, well is that not a combination of art and science, the aesthetics of an engineering process to create a frame.

I know artists who have no technical ability and I know scientists that have no artistic ability, I always wondered at them, wondered why they could do one thing so well, but are a disaster with the flip side of the coin, I think I know now.

Has anyone questioned themselves as to why they like what they do and there searched for the reasoning behind it.

 

[IDB1]

No.. not really.

 

[marin man]

So you are saying that school children of age 10 who put their foot through a 13th century stained glass window "because they feel like it" are adhd sufferers,I worked as a minder on a school bus for many years and in my experience these children just get labelled to protect them from getting a good hiding from their parents,I do not believe it exists (adhd) and only believe that the lefties are winning with the old dont smack your children argument........never did me any harm

 

[Neil]

So you are saying that school children of age 10 who put their foot through a 13th century stained glass window "because they feel like it" are adhd sufferers

No - wouldn't dream of either jumping to such a conclusion or claiming such a thing without a competent diagnosis.

I worked as a minder on a school bus for many years and in my experience these children just get labelled to protect them from getting a good hiding from their parents

Um, times change - things get discovered, understood - that's how you can use a computer to type your wonderful diatribes to Retrobike, rather than have to feverishly bash away at some antique typewriter, penning some furious rant to the Tunbridge Wells Daily Herald, signed off as "Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells".

I do not believe it exists (adhd)

Good for you.

Same for dyslexia? Is that another made-up condition in order to remove consequence and responsiblity for such groups?

Why let science and fact get in the way of a good old fashioned prejudice - you play to your strenghths - mucho kudos and all that.

and only believe that the lefties are winning with the old dont smack your children argument........never did me any harm

Ah, now I understand.

You either have latent desiges ;-) or simply want to lump everything you object to into one convenient bubble of things that you either appear to not really understand, or not want to.

 

[IDB1]

At the risk of taking this thread further off course

I do think the conditions are used as an excuse (by young people who are lazy (with regard to literacy/education)) or as an easy answer to unacceptable behaviour..

I think there's sufficient evidence to support the existence of them but scepticism isn't that surprising considering their (over) use - imo.

 

[Neil]

At the risk of taking this thread further off course

I do think the conditions are used as an excuse (by young people who are lazy (with regard to literacy/education)) or as an easy answer to unacceptable behaviour..

I think there's sufficient evidence to support the existence of them but scepticism isn't that surprising considering their (over) use - imo.

Clearly there's the possibility that certain conditions (and hardly just dyslexia or ADHD) can be overused and abused to simply to disown or deny responsibility - I get that. Surely that's true of many conditions or disorders and is more down to the person using it as an excuse, than the disorder itself.

Accepting that, though, there's a big leap between saying that maybe they're overused and subject to bogus claims, and claiming they don't actually exist.

Many people over the years have suffered in the education system either because of undiagnosed or undiscovered conditions like dyslexia - and could have been given a far better chance at life and education, if those educating understood rather than simply being old-fashioned and dismissive.