Another useful quiz
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silverclaws
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Oh I agree there are abusers of the labelling system, but they will be found out, for it is very hard to keep up a pretence over a long period of time as the more comfortable a person becomes the harder it is to create an illusion.
But I do suspect the education system is overusing the labelling as it seems anyone who is unteachable or exhibits certain behaviour usually of the disruptive kind then they must have a problem that fits a label. The reality might very well be that as minors have become very aware of their position, who they are, what they are and how people are to treat them they have gained the upper hand in the classroom. That along with a teacher can no longer even look at them funny let alone discipline them might very well lead to the labelling as a means of weeding out those that fail to learn.
But then if this is a factor, then is just as much a cop out as what I supposed earlier, the teaching aimed at those who thought on one particular side of the brain, the brain that wants to learn what the teacher is teaching, the school curriculum.
Perhaps this modern idea of everyone has a label is a method of ignoring and controlling.
But if it is accepted everyone has some kind of learning difficulty/disability, either found or not yet diagnosed I would like it passed as law anyone wanting to rule this country in any form of responsibility should be thoroughly psycho analysed as to any flaws in their personality as those people in power scare me. Some are quite definately not firing on all cylinders, Blair, Brown, Cameron, Clegg, they all display characteristics that could fit a label.
But I do suspect the education system is overusing the labelling as it seems anyone who is unteachable or exhibits certain behaviour usually of the disruptive kind then they must have a problem that fits a label. The reality might very well be that as minors have become very aware of their position, who they are, what they are and how people are to treat them they have gained the upper hand in the classroom. That along with a teacher can no longer even look at them funny let alone discipline them might very well lead to the labelling as a means of weeding out those that fail to learn.
But then if this is a factor, then is just as much a cop out as what I supposed earlier, the teaching aimed at those who thought on one particular side of the brain, the brain that wants to learn what the teacher is teaching, the school curriculum.
Perhaps this modern idea of everyone has a label is a method of ignoring and controlling.
But if it is accepted everyone has some kind of learning difficulty/disability, either found or not yet diagnosed I would like it passed as law anyone wanting to rule this country in any form of responsibility should be thoroughly psycho analysed as to any flaws in their personality as those people in power scare me. Some are quite definately not firing on all cylinders, Blair, Brown, Cameron, Clegg, they all display characteristics that could fit a label.
mikeekim89
Old School Grand Master
Neil":12skg6nk said:Clearly there's the possibility that certain conditions (and hardly just dyslexia or ADHD) can be overused and abused to simply to disown or deny responsibility - I get that. Surely that's true of many conditions or disorders and is more down to the person using it as an excuse, than the disorder itself.IDB1":12skg6nk said:At the risk of taking this thread further off course
I do think the conditions are used as an excuse (by young people who are lazy (with regard to literacy/education)) or as an easy answer to unacceptable behaviour..
I think there's sufficient evidence to support the existence of them but scepticism isn't that surprising considering their (over) use - imo.
Accepting that, though, there's a big leap between saying that maybe they're overused and subject to bogus claims, and claiming they don't actually exist.
Many people over the years have suffered in the education system either because of undiagnosed or undiscovered conditions like dyslexia - and could have been given a far better chance at life and education, if those educating understood rather than simply being old-fashioned and dismissive.
Umm.. Some of these things that're being said by some people on this thread *cough*mm*cough* are slightly old school.. in the way they are put. I suffer from ADHD, ODD and a few other conditions that I don't wish too disclose.. Members of my family suffer from the same, and other conditions, both my cousin and my uncle are dyslexic, I agree that the way things are looked at has changed, for the better for the most part. Things like ADHD are over-used, I agree, But there is ritalin, which most people who are diagnosed with get put on. (Doesn't really help mind..)
Facts are, ADHD is real. Dyslexia is real. They just get used on attention seekers too.
silverclaws
Senior Retro Guru
There is also the other possibility, labels sell drugs, whether the drugs work is irrelevant for we are all guinea pigs.
I am on SSRI, and there are already some authorities suggesting they will be banned in a few years time as they do create dependance, hell they alter your body chemistry and although the drugs were licensed fit for human use, they were not tested, so maybe the next illnesses will be illnesses created my medications.
Am just wondering though, a small community, take away all the labels and all the psychology and I wonder how people would live, would they just rub along as people who are different or will the different be ostracised, how did people with problems exist in the past prior to psychology, labels and drugs ?
I am on SSRI, and there are already some authorities suggesting they will be banned in a few years time as they do create dependance, hell they alter your body chemistry and although the drugs were licensed fit for human use, they were not tested, so maybe the next illnesses will be illnesses created my medications.
Am just wondering though, a small community, take away all the labels and all the psychology and I wonder how people would live, would they just rub along as people who are different or will the different be ostracised, how did people with problems exist in the past prior to psychology, labels and drugs ?
marin man":1g9n0att said:Dont you get fed up with all the labels for things nowadays,when I was at school if you could not spell you were just stupid,now dyslexic.
If you were naughty you were dissobedient,now adhd.
I am absolutley sick of the rubbish :x
so many examples of this nowadays,including the quiz above,I mean come on.....we all know we only have one brain.....
(or none in some cases
In my day when you talked bollocks you were classed as a wanker
