VeloFellow54":17gfh243 said:Would love to see pictures of it. I have a track frame number 2514 which I had previously dated to about 1985. It has some quite unusual features and is a great pleasure to ride.
(see picture) I was in contact with someone who worked at Allins at the time this was made. I wondered whether it had been built by Cliff Shrubb but the opinion is that it was one of Ray Moores. I also had seen recently a frame branded 'Whitehorse' which had me baffled. I learned that, again in the 80's, Allins bought in some frames and branded them Whitehorse rather than Allin which was only used on frames that they made, or had made for them specifically.
I could comment further but the red frame is not a true Allin as it was built post Peter Cobb and when the business was sold. Cliff Shrubb built for Allin and he was a fine builder (he also built for Geoffrey Butler and Pearson, and used his own name too).
I recently attended Keith Butler's funeral.