1992 GT Bravado frame questions.

[tlaverty79]

From what I've read it was a mix of xt and DX, mostly Xt..

The derailleur hanger is a good shout. He's gonna send some pics tomorrow.

Fingers crossed.

 

[SeeingisBelievingGTMuseum]

Just bought a 92 Bravado on eBay.

Can someone help me out?

Frame is made of True Temper GTX Ultra III same as the 92 Psyclone.

What are the differences in these frames?

Is the only difference the Psyclone is brazed instead of welded?

Are the geometry's the same?

I know othing really if true temper how does the frame compare to equivalent tange and Reynolds frames?

Cheers.

Tony

 

[SeeingisBelievingGTMuseum]

Just bought a 92 Bravado on eBay.

Can someone help me out?

Frame is made of True Temper GTX Ultra III same as the 92 Psyclone.

What are the differences in these frames?

Is the only difference the Psyclone is brazed instead of welded?

Are the geometry's the same?

I know othing really if true temper how does the frame compare to equivalent tange and Reynolds frames?

Cheers.

Tony

Psyclone has lighter stays and is Fillet brazed in the USA very limited quantities and only sold as a frames set.

Bravado had heavier stays, similar geometry, was Made in Japan at Toyo. In both the 1992 and 1993 model years the Team Avalanche was the top of the line complete steel bike model in the GT line above the Bravado.

Your comparisons are not good. Trying to compare a Bravado production model Pontiac Grand Am to a higher end custom lower count Maserati. Think what you want, while similar they are different. Have both, in fact all three, including the Team Aavalanche.

In regards to the True Temper GTX Ultra III name it refers to the fact that True Temper made the groove tube top tubes for the 92 and 3 model year bikes. This was something that GT and True Temper worked together on. While the rest of the industry was doing "banjo strung" top tubes Bill Duehring and his team were searching for ways for cleaner cable routing and hence the groove tube. The Team Avalanche the same year had Tange Prestige Concept seat tube and downtube with the GTX groove tube top tube.

 

[Lhatch4]

Beautiful collection. I think I need one of those GT seats for my 91 Zaskar project.

 

[Lhatch4]

Those actually look familiar. Are they from the "seeing is believing museum?"

 

[tlaverty79]

Just bought a 92 Bravado on eBay.

Can someone help me out?

Frame is made of True Temper GTX Ultra III same as the 92 Psyclone.

What are the differences in these frames?

Is the only difference the Psyclone is brazed instead of welded?

Are the geometry's the same?

I know othing really if true temper how does the frame compare to equivalent tange and Reynolds frames?

Cheers.

Tony

Psyclone has lighter stays and is Fillet brazed in the USA very limited quantities and only sold as a frames set.

Bravado had heavier stays, similar geometry, was Made in Japan at Toyo. In both the 1992 and 1993 model years the Team Avalanche was the top of the line complete steel bike model in the GT line above the Bravado.

Your comparisons are not good. Trying to compare a Bravado production model Pontiac Grand Am to a higher end custom lower count Maserati. Think what you want, while similar they are different. Have both, in fact all three, including the Team Aavalanche.

In regards to the True Temper GTX Ultra III name it refers to the fact that True Temper made the groove tube top tubes for the 92 and 3 model year bikes. This was something that GT and True Temper worked together on. While the rest of the industry was doing "banjo strung" top tubes Bill Duehring and his team were searching for ways for cleaner cable routing and hence the groove tube. The Team Avalanche the same year had Tange Prestige Concept seat tube and downtube with the GTX groove tube top tube.

Thanks, a man with the knowledge I was after.

What are your opinions on the Bravado in itself not comparing it to the Psyclone as it's clearly on another level?

I had a 91 or 92 Tequesta frameset that I had bought and it was just too heavy so I sold it on. As you can tell I'm a bit of a noob to GTs.

I have a battered and beat up 91 Zaskar with dents and large gouges and a broken derailleur hanger that I'm trying to salvage now with some filler and a new paint job.
Sacrilege, I know but it's better than it lying there doing nothing.

Thanks again for the expert knowledge.

Tony

 

[tlaverty79]

Got some more photos sent through today, it looking very promising.

https://www.flickr.com/gp/76321962@N03/084uTg

Any notes?

 

[xxnick1975]

Re:

I’m sure it will be an excellent bike

 

[tlaverty79]

Does anyone know what the seat post and seatpost clamp diameters are?
Cheers

 

[patersondj]

Just bought a 92 Bravado on eBay.

Can someone help me out?

Frame is made of True Temper GTX Ultra III same as the 92 Psyclone.

What are the differences in these frames?

Is the only difference the Psyclone is brazed instead of welded?

Are the geometry's the same?

I know othing really if true temper how does the frame compare to equivalent tange and Reynolds frames?

Cheers.

Tony

Psyclone has lighter stays and is Fillet brazed in the USA very limited quantities and only sold as a frames set.

Bravado had heavier stays, similar geometry, was Made in Japan at Toyo. In both the 1992 and 1993 model years the Team Avalanche was the top of the line complete steel bike model in the GT line above the Bravado.

Your comparisons are not good. Trying to compare a Bravado production model Pontiac Grand Am to a higher end custom lower count Maserati. Think what you want, while similar they are different. Have both, in fact all three, including the Team Aavalanche.

In regards to the True Temper GTX Ultra III name it refers to the fact that True Temper made the groove tube top tubes for the 92 and 3 model year bikes. This was something that GT and True Temper worked together on. While the rest of the industry was doing "banjo strung" top tubes Bill Duehring and his team were searching for ways for cleaner cable routing and hence the groove tube. The Team Avalanche the same year had Tange Prestige Concept seat tube and downtube with the GTX groove tube top tube.

gm1230126 surely you must have the almost the worlds supply of billet gt cranks!!!!!!! every second bike has some....



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