Agreed.Elev12k":3ldfwwrz said:"Are you mad?'' is put a bit strong (unless it is an Ibis Handjob ), but I tend to leave it there. I would not bother about the looks and appreciate it is there if I would ever go back to cantis.
I know people find it boring to discuss what retro means, but in my mind permanently modernising the design of a retro frame is a non-retro thing to do.
[Not that I personally care whether something is retro, only whether it is good.]