Old v new - BBs & chains - what do you use?

[Joe*Pro]

I wonder what others thoughts/experience are when using old bottom brackets or old chains v new ones on retro builds. Even maybe also with old cassettes.

It feels like the one set of parts to me that old stock can be a bit too hit or miss and just isn’t worth considering if you want to use the retro build every other weekend or so.

My last two builds of 1994 & 1995 bikes I’ve opted for UN300 BBs & HG71 chains, as what I understand are the current best equivalents still being manufactured. Whilst I went with used M900 cassettes, but am tempted to switch to a modern equivalent cassette. (I’ve the option of a NOS/NIB m900 but it was £150 !!)

My worry with even NOS for those consumables in particular is not just the crazy cost for somthing you can’t even see, but the reliability, corrosion, fit, size options, so wondering what you all prefer to do generally? And If you do use modern equivalents, what do you use and why ?

 

[Joe*Pro]

BB-UN55 vs BB-UN300 - which is the better square taper bottom bracket? - restoration.bike

And I'm also going to cover why, in a BB-UN55 vs BB-UN300 shoutout, the BB-UN55 comes out on top.

www.restoration.bike

 

[Joe*Pro]

Information regarding UN300 and UN100 (new Shimano Bottom Brackets)

I was about to order a new square tapered BB for some folding bike. Normally I would opt for Shimano UN55, since they tend to last a long time. However I noticed that some new variants were offered:

bicycles.stackexchange.com

 

[Joe*Pro]

What will replace the quality of the discontinued Shimano BB-UN55?

SpaCycles seem to be using inexpensive FIRST COMPONENTS Bottom Bracket F-2001P in their own builds. I got one of these from Spa when I bought a new chainset and fitted it at the weekend which, or at least tried to. Only a couple of threads in and the ring that the tool locks into sheared off!

www.cyclechat.net

 

[Joe*Pro]

 

[ishaw]

Depends on the build goal. Some like catalogue spec so chase that, some like me don't and use whatever works and is available. I'm not even that fussed about period correctness, just use what I want to make the bike as cool and bling as possible. Chains and cassettes are consumables that I buy new equivalents, BBS are mostly hidden anyway so go for decent modern to suit the crank.

 

[marc two tone]

Ive never gone back to cup and cone. I enjoy the simplicity of cartridge bbs.
Un71/2. Are my target items. If i come across a decent un 51/2/3, on a build i will pop it back in. I wouldnt have un55 given. Always seem weighty and tight. Jus' me.

Cassettes and chains? Im easily pleased with sram 7, 8 or 9 speed. I love the powerlink system and have never experienced a breakdown.
Sram 850 upwards seem nicely made and affordable. You see, you get the modern tech cut outs on the cassette teeth without the whole thing looking wild.

 

[benjabbi]

It's probably a bit stupid but I tend to match the BB to the crank if possible, so M900/UN-91. M730/UN-71, M739/UN-72, Turbine/Taperlock etc although a good UN5# or 7# is fine in general. I do have a Royce in one bike, just because it's a nice thing to own!
Same with cassettes, if I'm using, say, M737 mechs I'll try to find a decent M737 cassette.
For some reason though, I'm not the same with chains, generally defaulting to a HG-71 or KMC if I don't want Shimano on a build.

 

[Joe*Pro]

It's probably a bit stupid but I tend to match the BB to the crank if possible, so M900/UN-91. M730/UN-71, M739/UN-72, Turbine/Taperlock etc although a good UN5# or 7# is fine in general. I do have a Royce in one bike, just because it's a nice thing to own!
Same with cassettes, if I'm using, say, M737 mechs I'll try to find a decent M737 cassette.
For some reason though, I'm not the same with chains, generally defaulting to a HG-71 or KMC if I don't want Shimano on a build.

Good to know and you never find the old cassettes or old bottom brackets ever give you any grief even if half well used ?

 

[Imlach]

I've never had any problem with modern cheapo BB's. Fanciest I've got in one of my bikes is a Token and it looks fancy but.. it's virtually no different in performance than a UN300. I put a lot of torque into my drive train at 300 pounds but I've never had a BB fail or wear excessively fast.