Hi all, I'm new to these forums and was lead here by a friend from Weight Weenies, who recommended this forum for my new historical project
Been pondering about a longterm idea, where I wanna build a historical roadie bike, but I'm unsure of what budgets I'll be facing.
Main ideas:
- Create a bike that's fairly high quality, like what a low-end pro would've had available in 1980-1985 and have the same feel of how the real bikes of that era handled and was to ride.
- Not to adhere to strictly historical specs, if very hard/expensive, but to at least not "cheat" with modern tech so the bike will be at least as slow and heavy as a 1980-1985 tour bike. This is paramount for the project. Pre-1981 would be optimal, but in the general area of that year would be fine.
- Currently my deadline is ready-to-ride and train on at Spring 2013 so if some things require time to get, make and get-use-to, no problem.
- Its not for official historical racing, it's for me, for trying to rewind time during training and to feel the wings of history.
Terms of the project:
- No parts on it, whose technology were not available to top-end pros back in 1980-1985. Ie it doesn't have to be marketed by 1985, 1987 is fine if it was used by Mr.X during Tour de Y of 1985.
- It doesn't have to be an authentic bike of authetic parts, retro parts or replicas will do if its too unsafe or hard to get 30 yr old parts.
- If a certain part is largely unavailable and/or difficult to get without having it milled from scratch and/or wildly cumbersome to use today, a similar technology will have todo. Not paying fx $2000 to have a hub made to exact 1980 specs.
- Safe for long rides, up to 200km pr.day, in all tarmac terrain with abilities to withstand short cobblestones segments. No max-75kg bodyweight parts on it etc.
- Race worthy and competitive parts for the era in question. If I can hit sub-9kg's, even better, but I know the frames were heavy as hell back then so not sure what to gun for
Questions:
- How hard is it to get these replica parts today?..steel frames, hub, spokes, wheels, grouppos, cranks.
- Will I be cheat too much by using modern tubs?...or can I just pick some that are heavy enough to compensate? (I don't wanna be flatting all the time, just NOT "roll better" than they did back then)
- What grouppos and stores am I gunning for?
- Should I gun for buying actual old stuff used or go for replica stuff?
- What budget am I looking at? (£1k / £2k / £4k..Not sure if its cheaper/same/expensive'r than a 2011 tour bike's cost(minus wheels) of $4k)
- Is it possible/realistic to make a historical bike and maintain it(historically correct) or will spare parts be wildly expensive?
- Is there any paramount online ressources for such a historical interest, ie a place(other than here of cause) where one can verify that ones bike build plan isn't "cheating" tech wise?
Thx in advance.
Been pondering about a longterm idea, where I wanna build a historical roadie bike, but I'm unsure of what budgets I'll be facing.
Main ideas:
- Create a bike that's fairly high quality, like what a low-end pro would've had available in 1980-1985 and have the same feel of how the real bikes of that era handled and was to ride.
- Not to adhere to strictly historical specs, if very hard/expensive, but to at least not "cheat" with modern tech so the bike will be at least as slow and heavy as a 1980-1985 tour bike. This is paramount for the project. Pre-1981 would be optimal, but in the general area of that year would be fine.
- Currently my deadline is ready-to-ride and train on at Spring 2013 so if some things require time to get, make and get-use-to, no problem.
- Its not for official historical racing, it's for me, for trying to rewind time during training and to feel the wings of history.
Terms of the project:
- No parts on it, whose technology were not available to top-end pros back in 1980-1985. Ie it doesn't have to be marketed by 1985, 1987 is fine if it was used by Mr.X during Tour de Y of 1985.
- It doesn't have to be an authentic bike of authetic parts, retro parts or replicas will do if its too unsafe or hard to get 30 yr old parts.
- If a certain part is largely unavailable and/or difficult to get without having it milled from scratch and/or wildly cumbersome to use today, a similar technology will have todo. Not paying fx $2000 to have a hub made to exact 1980 specs.
- Safe for long rides, up to 200km pr.day, in all tarmac terrain with abilities to withstand short cobblestones segments. No max-75kg bodyweight parts on it etc.
- Race worthy and competitive parts for the era in question. If I can hit sub-9kg's, even better, but I know the frames were heavy as hell back then so not sure what to gun for
Questions:
- How hard is it to get these replica parts today?..steel frames, hub, spokes, wheels, grouppos, cranks.
- Will I be cheat too much by using modern tubs?...or can I just pick some that are heavy enough to compensate? (I don't wanna be flatting all the time, just NOT "roll better" than they did back then)
- What grouppos and stores am I gunning for?
- Should I gun for buying actual old stuff used or go for replica stuff?
- What budget am I looking at? (£1k / £2k / £4k..Not sure if its cheaper/same/expensive'r than a 2011 tour bike's cost(minus wheels) of $4k)
- Is it possible/realistic to make a historical bike and maintain it(historically correct) or will spare parts be wildly expensive?
- Is there any paramount online ressources for such a historical interest, ie a place(other than here of cause) where one can verify that ones bike build plan isn't "cheating" tech wise?
Thx in advance.