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[scant]

I carry spare mech hangers with me. If I bend 1 I will (& have) fit a new 1 inside 5mins & then keep on riding.

non replaceable r.mech hangers are yet another outdated retro feature

My modern bike is steel, and has no such replaceable hanger. Most steel bikes still don't...and I refuse to allow you to classify steel as a "retro feature"

send pics next time you bend your mech hanger

I know you've racked up 8300 posts, but surely you aren't THAT bored!

that was the days of ye olde boring IT job :evil: now I ride my bike all day when everyone else is stuck in work

worst part of non replaceable mech hangers isnt purely bending the frame tab, its wrecking the threads as well

 

[perry]

trick is to not bend the hanger or have one to bend in the first place ( we need a tongue out smiley )

 

[terryhfs]

What if you are away for a weekend of camping and riding with friends, in an area of western North Carolina where the bike shops maybe aren't so hot. You prang your derailleur hanger enough so that you don't want to cold set the thing by hand for fear of shearing it off entirely. With STI, you are hosed, probably looking for a single speed to set the bike in to maybe salvage some of your weekend. With a thumbshifter, just switch it to friction. Done. Wink

Bend it that much and friction shifting won't save you. Hangers almost always bend inwards when you hit them and if you're running long cage you'll be limited to maybe the three smallest sprockets. Meanwhile the cage is trying to pull the chain off any chainring other than the little one and the chain is looking for a good excuse to snap when you least expect it.

I think you're still stuck with single-speeding it.

If it's a steel frame you can just bend it back - it's aluminium that breaks when it bends.

 

[Xesh]

trick is to not bend the hanger or have one to bend in the first place ( we need a tongue out smiley )

We have one:

In all honesty I can say, hand on heart, that I've never, ever knackered a rear mech or gear hanger by clouting something. Now I've said that I'll end up bending one next time I'm out. :roll:

I hope that I don't cos the only bike I've got is my Saracen Ti and if I manage to bend the hanger on that I won't be happy. :x

 

[Lid]

The Xo is excellent and the new XTR is the best shifter......ever.
Thumbies are for BOTM's and toodling around the park with the kids on my retro ride.
Get out and ride some sh**t where your eyeballs are rattlin in your head..... up and down hill. You dont bloody well take your hand off the bars to make a frickin gear change or you die.

Jeez.

Next cantis will be better than discs.....oh no someone already said that.


(Oh dear VRC moment there)

 

[barry2017]

Just to annoy people, my favourite shifters are Suntour friction ones that cost about £5 a pair new. They always work, there's simply no reason for me to go beyond that.

 

[ededwards]

I carry spare mech hangers with me. If I bend 1 I will (& have) fit a new 1 inside 5mins & then keep on riding.

non replaceable r.mech hangers are yet another outdated retro feature

My modern bike is steel, and has no such replaceable hanger. Most steel bikes still don't...and I refuse to allow you to classify steel as a "retro feature"

send pics next time you bend your mech hanger

Blimey Mike, have you been unwell (answer "no, just out riding while you monkeys are all at your desks" ) as it's been a while since we've had the "old stuff is rubbish, new stuff is ace" bit.

Regardless of the validity of that argument (and this is absolutely not to start it all over again), the vast majority come here to talk/read/look at old stuff. Why not just leave it at that? (rhetorical question, doesn't need a reply)

 

[scant]

I carry spare mech hangers with me. If I bend 1 I will (& have) fit a new 1 inside 5mins & then keep on riding.

non replaceable r.mech hangers are yet another outdated retro feature

My modern bike is steel, and has no such replaceable hanger. Most steel bikes still don't...and I refuse to allow you to classify steel as a "retro feature"

send pics next time you bend your mech hanger

Blimey Mike, have you been unwell (answer "no, just out riding while you monkeys are all at your desks" ) as it's been a while since we've had the "old stuff is rubbish, new stuff is ace" bit.

Regardless of the validity of that argument (and this is absolutely not to start it all over again), the vast majority come here to talk/read/look at old stuff. Why not just leave it at that? (rhetorical question, doesn't need a reply)

you expect me not to reply carl? yeh sorry for slow delay, just done 2hrs
STI shifters arent new, M900 XTR was 92. its an internet forum, people dont always agree, get used to it

 

[silverclaws]

I thought the idea of crossing country by machine was about crossing the vicious terrain without doing damage to the machine and the self, and for some, not trashing the terrain.

I have bent rear drop outs and mech hangers back by clubbing them with rocks and smashing the drop out into line by smashing it between two rocks, but always on Raleighs though. The Saracen never suffered such a defeat, but it being my machine, I treat it with care, though the worst I have ever had involving a rear mech, was going rapidly down hill and getting stopped by a low hanging tree branch that got caught up in the jockey cage, ripping it to bits. I found the bits and took rock to alluminium to straighten the thing, the jockey screws held with a bit of superglue and off I went in friction mode.

Oh yes, I carry a 10 gramme tube of superglue, it works wonders for stripped threads and sealing cuts.

I have geared my bike now for simplicity, the chain has a quick link in it, the cranks have self extracting bolts and the mech hanger bolt is hollow with a zip tie through it. A big enough whack and the ally bolt should break, but the mech is kept in place by the zip tie, things I hope will stay in place long enough to come to a satisfactory and recoverable stop. Cable operated brakes and gears, how simple can you get.

With this new cycle I have, I have considered Maguras, but fluid loss out in the sticks I worry about, so Magura, though they are good, aren't practical for me.

I am a big fan of the K.I.S.S principle, keep everything simple.

 

[john]

Blimey Mike, have you been unwell (answer "no, just out riding while you monkeys are all at your desks" ) as it's been a while since we've had the "old stuff is rubbish, new stuff is ace" bit.

I don't recall Scant ever making such a comment