Tange and Reynolds Steel
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Reynolds is easier to understand, the bigger the number, the better the tubing, but Tange made stripy tubing, which looks cool:
I've had frames made of both and they both have that nice springy steel frame feel, even the cheap and relatively heavy Claud Butler frame I have which is made from Reynolds entry level Cr-Mo tubing main tubes, rear triangle and forks were plain high tensile steel, feels quite nice to ride.
I've had frames made of both and they both have that nice springy steel frame feel, even the cheap and relatively heavy Claud Butler frame I have which is made from Reynolds entry level Cr-Mo tubing main tubes, rear triangle and forks were plain high tensile steel, feels quite nice to ride.
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My 531 Magnum (PI?) Claud Butler was heavy and not really any good but another 531 MTB frame that I have is really light and responsive.
As with all things, its in the hands of the designer and builder.
As with all things, its in the hands of the designer and builder.
There's Colombus and True Temper too with high steel quality tubes…
I own bikes built with Tange prestige tubing (Ferraroli and Ritchey) weld with 2 different technology classic lugs for the Ferraroli and Tig and filled brased for the Ritchey. They are light, comfortable and give good feelings, near titanium. But seems to lose thair quality with time.
Colombus and True Temper were more stiff. For exemple, my Fat Chance Yo Eddy is hard, in contrast with the Ritchey.
A different philosophy. But the geometry and design could change a lot of things
For Reynolds, I only own my old father road bike with 531. One of my favorite, I think near Tange. But I don't know its quality on mtb
I own bikes built with Tange prestige tubing (Ferraroli and Ritchey) weld with 2 different technology classic lugs for the Ferraroli and Tig and filled brased for the Ritchey. They are light, comfortable and give good feelings, near titanium. But seems to lose thair quality with time.
Colombus and True Temper were more stiff. For exemple, my Fat Chance Yo Eddy is hard, in contrast with the Ritchey.
A different philosophy. But the geometry and design could change a lot of things
For Reynolds, I only own my old father road bike with 531. One of my favorite, I think near Tange. But I don't know its quality on mtb
Rod_Saetan
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It's perhaps a little unfair to lump all of one manufacturer's product against another, for instance I would take Tange Ultimate UltraStrong over Reynolds 501 and Reynolds 753 over Tange Infinity. Both produced (and still do) great tube sets, but as 24" above points out, so did (and do) Columbus and True Temper.
Snr Queso also correctly identifies the fact that a builder (quality of construction, selection of appropriate tubes, understanding of their properties will make a greatet difference than pitching one tube against another.
In my experience the high end vintage tube offerings from Reynolds and Tange make great riding bikes, but Bontrager's ride fantastic despite not having a 'high-end' tube set, it's partly down to the geometry.
FWIW, my modern MTB is Reynolds 853, my modern road bike is Reynolds 653 and my vintage MTBs are: 753 ATB; Tange Prestige; True Temper 4130; Columbus/Reynolds mix; Reynolds 531 ATB select.
Snr Queso also correctly identifies the fact that a builder (quality of construction, selection of appropriate tubes, understanding of their properties will make a greatet difference than pitching one tube against another.
In my experience the high end vintage tube offerings from Reynolds and Tange make great riding bikes, but Bontrager's ride fantastic despite not having a 'high-end' tube set, it's partly down to the geometry.
FWIW, my modern MTB is Reynolds 853, my modern road bike is Reynolds 653 and my vintage MTBs are: 753 ATB; Tange Prestige; True Temper 4130; Columbus/Reynolds mix; Reynolds 531 ATB select.
