Stupid is as stupid does

[technodup]

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But they will go in that wee booth and stick two fingers right up the establishment.

Oh please, I would embrace it if it were true. I'm not sure who you think 'my side' is, but supporting Brexit as a protest vote against the establishment?

Not a protest vote per se, more a genuine belief that the status quo isn't working for many people, and despite their claims to know best, that "we're all in it together" etc etc there should be another way forward.

The evidence is all there.

Tory majority when the consensus was a hung parliament
Labour revolting against their only successful incarnation of the past several decades
The UK voting against remaining in a union we were consistently told was good for us
Americans preferring a businessman non politician as POTUS over the state sponsored career drone

But if you want to call it a protest fair enough. It's certainly proven to be a more effective protest than the Iraq march, student sit-ins or #CryingOnTwitter.

 

[legrandefromage]

Its not 'LEGOS' its LEGO!!!!

A bit like seeing 'Paninis'.

 

[Harryburgundy]

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Not a protest vote per se, more a genuine belief that the status quo isn't working for many people, and despite their claims to know best, that "we're all in it together" etc etc there should be another way forward.

I agree, but I truly believe their anger was misplaced. Capitalism is failing most but the infamous 1%
There is nothing democratic about a society that has at one end, people trying to survive on food banks, and at the other the hyper rich.
We do need to see a sea change in the structure of our society, removing ourselves from the EU will make no difference or potentially will worsen the lives of ordinary people. I hope I'm proven wrong.

 

[highlandsflyer]

We pay more into the EU than we take out. They were lucky to have us.

Simple arithmetic suggests we would be better off out, though it gets complicated when you consider all the other aspects of membership that may have a price yet to be calculated.

It was not a protest vote as such in the USA, it was a case of more of a certain type of voter doing the voting.

Clinton underestimated the task in hand, it seemed, as did so many others.

The gap between poor and rich is a difficult one to quantify accurately, now that things like satellite television and internet access are being seen as human rights.

How many people who use food banks are spending their benefits on cigarettes and alcohol, or other drugs?

I have personally lived in a couple of the most deprived areas in the UK, and can attest to the spending habits of the people who are considered the poorest in society. Some of them at least.

Lazy, addicted, irresponsible and deeply ingrained in criminality.

The best thing to do would be to flatten the estates and send everyone out to live in the abandoned rural communities. Give them grants to renovate and teach them how to farm and fish.

These are the kind of radical ideas I would hope Trump might happen upon.

 

[02gf74]

The great thing is now there is a precedent. We and the Yanks have shown the status quo can be broken. Marine le Pen anyone?

Don't wish to be picky but it is President, and his name is Trump. Oh and Status Quo haven broken up.

 

[Harryburgundy]

We pay more into the EU than we take out. They were lucky to have us.

Simple arithmetic suggests we would be better off out, though it gets complicated when you consider all the other aspects of membership that may have a price yet to be calculated.

It was not a protest vote as such in the USA, it was a case of more of a certain type of voter doing the voting.

Clinton underestimated the task in hand, it seemed, as did so many others.

The gap between poor and rich is a difficult one to quantify accurately, now that things like satellite television and internet access are being seen as human rights.

How many people who use food banks are spending their benefits on cigarettes and alcohol, or other drugs?

I have personally lived in a couple of the most deprived areas in the UK, and can attest to the spending habits of the people who are considered the poorest in society. Some of them at least.

Lazy, addicted, irresponsible and deeply ingrained in criminality.

The best thing to do would be to flatten the estates and send everyone out to live in the abandoned rural communities. Give them grants to renovate and teach them how to farm and fish.

These are the kind of radical ideas I would hope Trump might happen upon.

Jeez, proper little fascist aren't you! I'm staggered by the content of your comment.

 

[legrandefromage]

Oh and Status Quo haven broken up.

bad luck:

http://www.statusquo.co.uk/aquostic/ind ... CTw__mLTIU

 

[CTK]

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We pay more into the EU than we take out. They were lucky to have us.

Simple arithmetic suggests we would be better off out, though it gets complicated when you consider all the other aspects of membership that may have a price yet to be calculated.

It was not a protest vote as such in the USA, it was a case of more of a certain type of voter doing the voting.

Clinton underestimated the task in hand, it seemed, as did so many others.

The gap between poor and rich is a difficult one to quantify accurately, now that things like satellite television and internet access are being seen as human rights.

How many people who use food banks are spending their benefits on cigarettes and alcohol, or other drugs?

I have personally lived in a couple of the most deprived areas in the UK, and can attest to the spending habits of the people who are considered the poorest in society. Some of them at least.

Lazy, addicted, irresponsible and deeply ingrained in criminality.

The best thing to do would be to flatten the estates and send everyone out to live in the abandoned rural communities. Give them grants to renovate and teach them how to farm and fish.

These are the kind of radical ideas I would hope Trump might happen upon.

LOL why not just flatten the estates with them still there! :facepalm: :facepalm:

Seriously think about what you are saying. Some people in poor areas have poor spending habits so flatten the estates?!

 

[Mike Muz]

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There are some interesting theories coming out here

Mike

 

[highlandsflyer]

We pay more into the EU than we take out. They were lucky to have us.

Simple arithmetic suggests we would be better off out, though it gets complicated when you consider all the other aspects of membership that may have a price yet to be calculated.

It was not a protest vote as such in the USA, it was a case of more of a certain type of voter doing the voting.

Clinton underestimated the task in hand, it seemed, as did so many others.

The gap between poor and rich is a difficult one to quantify accurately, now that things like satellite television and internet access are being seen as human rights.

How many people who use food banks are spending their benefits on cigarettes and alcohol, or other drugs?

I have personally lived in a couple of the most deprived areas in the UK, and can attest to the spending habits of the people who are considered the poorest in society. Some of them at least.

Lazy, addicted, irresponsible and deeply ingrained in criminality.

The best thing to do would be to flatten the estates and send everyone out to live in the abandoned rural communities. Give them grants to renovate and teach them how to farm and fish.

These are the kind of radical ideas I would hope Trump might happen upon.

Jeez, proper little fascist aren't you! I'm staggered by the content of your comment.

Yeah, you got me. I'm a fascist.

How I wish there were more like me.

Could you explain why getting rid of the estates that breed recidivism would be such a bad thing?

Many would take the opportunity, if given, to move somewhere they could grow chickens and breed potatoes.

Imagine waking up to the joyous sound of your big red cock, rather than some scoundrel using bolt cutters on your coal cupboard doors, after your precious bikes.

I have a dream, and it involves reversing the trend to consumerism, and re-instilling notions of work and reward in folks who seem to have lost those over the generations. If they don't like it, they can go back to the city. Somehow I doubt many would.