stamped geometry frame markings

[Diamant_Don]

Wrap around seat stays are kind of neat, but did they have a function (added strength/rigidity) or was it just quicker to bend the metal around the seat tube?

 

[Midlife]

My Falcon San Remo (Track and Road) had flattened wrap round seat stays same as the below, Falcon said it was for rigidity but was more of a tradememark than anything else.

Carlton generally used the wrapround for Tru-Well tubes and not for 531.

Shaun

 

[Diamant_Don]

Yes, looks much nicer flattened out, IMO. Makes it look 'finished'.

 

[Midlife]

Holdsworth Pro of my era had wrap round as well, again a trademark............ latterly taken over by Rourke.

Shaun

 

[Diamant_Don]

Lovely examples there… but I guess these chaps were much more expensive than the Raleighs/Suns that had the ordinary bent metal look?

 

[Midlife]

The Raleigh Gran Sport of the 60's wasn't a cheap bike BITD. The first wrap around style that I can think of. I think it was probably harder to manufacture than pinning the seat stays to the seat lug?

Shaun

 

[biggs682]

did Carltons have Shimano drop outs ??

 

[Spokesmann]

did Carltons have Shimano drop outs ??

I myself don't think so...

 

[biggs682]

did Carltons have Shimano drop outs ??

I myself don't think so...

thats what i was thinking too

 

[Diamant_Don]

Re:

So that frame's still a mystery then? Maybe Ian May did build it, using NOS Carlton lugs?