Should there be a law against this? (Chain Reaction)
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Can't help but think you brought this "problem" upon yourself.
It's all very well complaining about the extravagant packaging and how many trees have died to provide protection for your items, but think of how much CO2 and particulants have been thrown into our atmoshpere to get those items to you as speedily as they do.
All you had to do was get off your seat and walk (or cycle) down to your LBS to get the items, zero carbon footprint, health benefits to you, no need to get on the internet and complain about other people being lazy :roll:
Having said all that though ^^^ I myself use CRC fairly frequently and I don't care how big the packaging is!
If you travel the world a bit and visit 2nd and 3rd world countries it kind of makes you think "what's the point?" when it comes to recycling here in the UK, most of the world just chucks stuff on a tip or burns it, I find it difficult to comprehend how us in the UK can make that much of a difference tbh.
It's all very well complaining about the extravagant packaging and how many trees have died to provide protection for your items, but think of how much CO2 and particulants have been thrown into our atmoshpere to get those items to you as speedily as they do.
All you had to do was get off your seat and walk (or cycle) down to your LBS to get the items, zero carbon footprint, health benefits to you, no need to get on the internet and complain about other people being lazy :roll:
Having said all that though ^^^ I myself use CRC fairly frequently and I don't care how big the packaging is!
If you travel the world a bit and visit 2nd and 3rd world countries it kind of makes you think "what's the point?" when it comes to recycling here in the UK, most of the world just chucks stuff on a tip or burns it, I find it difficult to comprehend how us in the UK can make that much of a difference tbh.cyfa2809":1yambk6a said:
I hope there's more to it than that.
The idea that you can put right your more environmentally unsound practices by planting a few trees is pretty flawed, not to mention only addressing one very specific aspect of what it means to be 'green'.
Which is a massive saving in costs for CRC & hopefully those reductions are passed on to it's customers, oh and the environment has 30% less lorries from just one company driving around to deliver your bike bits.Chain Reaction Cycles":2dvm5xi3 said:
So to save 30% of their postal road transport I really don't mind larger packaging, or having to ride down to the sorting office to get my parts
Vid here: http://www.vitalmtb.com/videos/member/C ... TBCUT-tv,6
Oh, if you don't like the packaging why not try going to your local bike shop. You won't get any excess packaging there
Ok, but maybe I should have been a little more realistic with my statementRussell":g9hb9bg3 said:
cyfa2809":g9hb9bg3 said:
Certainly not... we offset nothing. That's the easy, cheaters way out :evil:
It's a fairly small specialised industry, so there are few who do what we do. So when I say "the greenest" it's not an independently verified position, but more based on we know who our competitors are, and we know what they have done compared to ourselves.
And as Engironment Manager, I am the one who can vouch for our position
We have:
-ISO14001 accredited Environmental Management System
-Carbon Trust Standard
-Carbon Trust Approved Supplier
-Carbon Trust Energy Efficient Finance Approved
All our lit signage (we manufacture shop signage for high street, retail, local gov't etc) uses LED while our competitors are still tending to use florescent tube.
Our digital print is either VOC free, or low VOC depending on which machine is used.
All our steel and aluminium raw material is 100% recycled material.
All our wastes are segregated for recycling.
We have 25kw of solar PV on our roof.
Our factory lighting is our own made in house LED
We have replaced our air conditioning with Evaporative Cooling (up to 80% more efficient apparently).
We are collecting our first ZE electric van tomoro (Wednesday) for local use
So, while we haven't actually been awarded the prize of "Greenest in our Industry"... we can pretty well state with a high degree of accuracy or certainty, that we are
That all sounds like I'm blowing smoke up my own arse, which I'm trying not to sound like.... don't want to sound like a self righteous toss
G :roll:
cyfa2809":251nlxbt said:
To be honest, The Carbon Trust Standard was more taxing, primarily because I have done 14001's before, but also because fo the sheer detail that the Carbon Trust require of you
Back on topic, I am about to start a monitoring regime for all our packaging materials. Not only for the legal purposes mentioned above, but also because we are going to be investing in a wood pellet/wood chip boiler system for the factory and offices, which, if set up correctly with an ancillery chipping process, will enable us to pretty much eliminate our wood waste (offcuts from manufacturing, and pallets), and virtually come off gas for heating entirely
As far as CRC (Chain Reaction Cycles.. not the Carbon Reduction Commitment
) is concerned, it seems they ahve begun addressing the packaging issue, however it also appears that they have kind of greenwashed it a bit, and that there is still a huge amount of potential.... Now, if they need an Environment Manager.... G
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I got my seatpost shim in a jiffy bag from crc, have to say tho the rb community is pretty green pretty mech everything I have bought of members from here looks like the packaging is at least on its second if not more use.
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