Salsa A La Carte

[pete_mcc]

Would you rather put £200 into a Marin Palisaides Trail with a known 'history' or a bike which might have belonged to a genuine icon of the UK mountain bike scene or might be chaff? Know where my money would go...

 

[Dr S]

Without the ownership factor, you've got a badly-painted bike with no description of the parts, collect-only from a thinly-populated area in the week before Christmas. So £400 rapidly degrades to £200 IMHO.

I can think of at least 30 RB members within a 30 mile radius of Durham, myself included.

Looks to me like the seller had a mate bidding to bump the price up and came unstuck to me. Might be worth getting in touch to put in an offer?? Would certainly need that disc mount removing and repainting correctly before trying to establish what kit it should would have worn BITD. Would be a rewarding and interesting project for sure.

 

[clockworkgazz]

If the guy was shill bidding I wouldn't buy on principal- had a similar situation with another bike and surprise surprise got a second chance offer- told the cheeky cheating fecker to GTF.

 

[Dr S]

I've just had an email from the seller. The bike has not sold- surprise surprise. He also has a matching Salsa that belonged to Jasons GF Sophie Brookes. I'm going to give him a call later.

 

[Corduroyboy]

I don't think it was intentionally a shill bid. The seller knew what he had and he changed his mind. Whether he will now decide to sell to the unfortunate bidder who came second is another matter. Although I'm a little uncomfortable with the thought of that happening...
FWIW, I had my finger on the button at more than £400 with a few seconds to go, when it jumped up to £771. I was willing to take that risk.

 

[tintin40]

I bid £100 for that bike two days ago. I thought £771 was bit high

 

[Dr S]

I've just had a chat with him. Seams like a nice guy and he was uncomfortable about the outcome, but as Giles says, he suddenly regretted selling and in a panic asked his pal to put in a big bid so it remained in his posession.

There is little of the original bike remaining. He bought a few frames and some bars from McRoy and built it up himself. The disc conversion was done by Kevin Winter- his work is top notch but it does need returning to original.

This is JMC in action on the bike

 

[john]

I've just had a chat with him. Seams like a nice guy and he was uncomfortable about the outcome, but as Giles says, he suddenly regretted selling and in a panic asked his pal to put in a big bid so it remained in his posession.

There is little of the original bike remaining. He bought a few frames and some bars from McRoy and built it up himself. The disc conversion was done by Kevin Winter- his work is top notch but it does need returning to original.

This is JMC in action on the bike

The implication being he plans to keep it? And do what with it?

 

[Dr S]

The implication being he plans to keep it? And do what with it?

I don't honestly know. I guess he thought it might be worth thousands and its that time of year when money is tight. I guess that even something one holds dear has a price in that situation. When it looked like it wasn't going to go big he pulled it. I'd probably do the same.

He did say one option was to restore the two bikes back to original and keep them as a pair. That would be a nice thing to do but it would be a big job.

I suppose outside of RB the majority of UK mountain bikers care little for the past- hence the relativly low price. If this was in the states, and that bike had belonged to a rider of such ilk (even without the legend an untimely death brings) it would have gone for a small fortune. Goes to show just how behind we are over here as collectors.

 

[john]

Surprised he didn't put more time into listing it given he thought it was worth 1000s.

He did say one option was to restore the two bikes back to original and keep them as a pair. That would be a nice thing to do but it would be a big job.

Agreed.

I suppose outside of RB the majority of UK mountain bikers care little for the past- hence the relativly low price. If this was in the states, and that bike had belonged to a rider of such ilk (even without the legend an untimely death brings) it would have gone for a small fortune. Goes to show just how behind we are over here as collectors.

Surely that statement would go for any mtber in any country?

Perhaps if he had listed it better, included better pictures and included some proof it belonged to JMC it would've gone bigger. I for one would've bid more on it if this had been the case. At least with the recently sold C-26 it was fairly clearly a C-26 even though it was one with a questionable heritage. The 'Salsa' could've been anything under that paint, it wasn't clear to me from the pics (although I didn't looks super hard) if it even was a Salsa, could've been anything steel from the early-mid 90s.