Revelations about the past of Mauro Gianetti, Pogacar’s Manager (Radio France Investigation, Translation in post)

[Rapparee87]

Is it though? Not saying this is happening now - but it is exactly what happened in the past.

I am not looking for an argument, but the Armstrong era had lots of doping, lots knew about it. no one said anything…

It's not true to say nobody said anything, from the 99 Tour on, from Lemonds "greatest fraud in sporting history" remark, through to allegations in the French media, David Walsh's columns etc, All were raising doubt.

But if there are those who doubt Pogacar etc then there's one solution. Just don't watch.

 

[ChromeChainstay]

i think Tadej would of destroyed Merckx. just saying

 

[highlandsflyer]

i think Tadej would of destroyed Merckx. just saying

I remember debating Ali v Tyson.

 

[Nothin-fancy]

i think Tadej would of destroyed Merckx. just saying

Whew wee, someone's trying to whip up some controversy or troll with that post on the retro page...

It's an apple's and Orange's argument either way. The training is so much different now than in the 70's. The oxygen chambers so you sleep at 14,000 ft. elevation that have been around since the mid 2000's, the training with intervals etc. vs. just putting in the miles/km's, the dieticians and vitamin shots these days that you can blame for your dirty test. Shoot, even the food they eat during the races with the gells and bars is different now vs the 60's-1985ish with their banana's, GORP and coca cola's. The tactics are different now too with the whole in ears and the coach telling them when/where to attack and times ahead or behind now vs. the riders doing it themselves.
Let alone the equipment... I can go on and on.

And I'm not a Eddie fan either.
I much prefer Le Blaireau... The last of the Patron's!

 

[ChromeChainstay]

 

[7Speed]

It's not true to say nobody said anything, from the 99 Tour on, from Lemonds "greatest fraud in sporting history" remark, through to allegations in the French media, David Walsh's columns etc, All were raising doubt.

But if there are those who doubt Pogacar etc then there's one solution. Just don't watch.

You are right. I should have said - no one on the inside with the evidence and ability to stop it - which was a lot of people - did anything. It went on for the best part of a decade.

 

[ChromeChainstay]

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[Rapparee87]

You are right. I should have said - no one on the inside with the evidence and ability to stop it - which was a lot of people - did anything. It went on for the best part of a decade.

You're correct there, nobody did anything .

 

[Ippikin]

I stopped watching or even being remotely interested in pro road racing about 20 years ago. Floyd Landis being thrown off the TDF did it for me. Having said that I do occasionally rewatch classic races (on VHS ) from the epo days,; the 1995 Worlds in Duitama with Indurain aggressively controlling the race ahead of Pantani on a crazy hard course, with massive crowds of spectators everywhere. The 1996 Paris Roubaix with three Mapei riders Bortolami, Tafi and Musseuw off the front for the last 50 miles And the 1997 Amstel Gold where Riis just rides away from the rest as if they are not really racing (they are). Suppose this is my guilty pleasure where I know the riders are charged up but I like the riders, the classic bikes and tech and aggressive riding.

 

[vtwinvince]

That's like me, I watch reruns of the 500cc MotoGP golden era races, as the modern version is so incredibly boring.