On-One: Fat Chancer retro steel frame

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I always thought they were 'chancers' at On-One anyway - I remember seeing Brant's Rohloff desigined drop-out. I thought that won't last long, and it didn't.

I haven't got an issue with a v-braked version of their current frames, or their frames in general. They are what they are as already mentioned. I do however think they've stooped to a low level in pulling the branding of a quality classic, on to their tat.
 
I think the page has been pulled because they made a mistake. They've realised its actually a Klein thats influenced the new bike and thats what they used to like.

Fat Chancer out > On Eins Kleins in.
 
kaiser":37xahsix said:
I think the page has been pulled because they made a mistake. They've realised its actually a Klein thats influenced the new bike and thats what they used to like.

Fat Chancer out > On Eins Kleins in.

Its a GT influenced frame - compare the welding.com:

fat-chancer3-600.jpg


Compared to Vinnie (Hey A'm weldin' here') The Welders welding:
 

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cchris2lou":2gxpm2kg said:
page down probably to check if Fat chance name is up for grab ?

Yes, quite likely.
I hope Chris Chance or somebody else who was actually involved in the varied history of Fat Chance still owns the rights to the name and sends them a "Cease & Desist".

Even worse has happened with Hutch, a former top-flight BMX brand.

The rights to the Hutch name were bought about 2 years ago by a guy called John de Bruin. He immediately used strong-arm tactics to close down a couple of amazing fabricators who were making top quality "retro look-alike" components for the enthusiast market - Components that NEVER had a HUTCH logo on them and which JDB NEVER originally had a any hand in developing anyway, as they were mostly developed for Hutch (over 30 years ago) by the genius Bill Grove!!! :twisted:

After those small fabricators declined to continue producing their components for JDB to mark up and sell on, JDB had his own reproduction Hutch parts made (allegedly in China, though he refuses to confirm) and charged a fortune for them. Customers paid up front, the parts were over a year late. There were QC issues with the first products and now other promised products seem to have been put on hold.

The thread detailing this mess on Vintage BMX is > 100 pages, with some very annoyed customers and Hutch fans.

It's all very well laying claim to a brand by means of a large pile of money or squatting expired brand names.
But you need to be very careful how you manage the legacy of that brand if you are to retain any goodwill from those with fond memories of the originals.
 
Sarcilege!

I've also heard that some people are chopping up old Fat frames and putting disc mounts on them!! :lol:

I've never owned an On-One or a Fat Chance but I can see the merit in building a retro inspired frame now. I'd like retro angled frame for short or no travel forks but with disc mounts, I'm sure some other people would. What On-One have done wrong is:

a) Not built a retro inspired frame.

b) Given it a really really misguided name.

c) Typed a paragraph of utter tosh.

d) Used cowled dropouts which make chain tensioners a reet PITA

e) etc etc etc
 
How about this instead.

"Due to popular demand we are making frames with V-Brake mounts again- our frame builder had a load of cowled dropouts laying about so we've used those aswell. Its 853 main tubes and will cost under £200. We haven't come up with a name yet, any ideas....?"
 
I'm not a big Fat Chance Fan, TBH never got them even back in the day but to name a bike so closely to something which is blantanly isn't is kind of taking the p**.
 
''Pratt-Lance''


''Phat-Chance''


''No-Chance''


On-One ''40 something''


On-One ''B.U.M.F.U.C.C.'' (British Unified Manufacturing Frame, Unicycle, Cycling Club)
 
legrandefromage":3n7zlih8 said:
''Pratt-Lance''

On-One ''B.U.M.F.U.C.C.'' (British Unified Manufacturing Frame, Unicycle, Cycling Club)

:lol: :lol:
Wasn't there already an On-One frame with that name?

Bogus.Ugly.Miserable.Fake.Unrelated to.Chris.Chance.

I think if this frame is ever released (assuming it hasn't been shelved due to adverse RB opinion), it should forever be known as the B.U.M.F.U.C.C. 8)
 
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