NEW TI RALEIGH 753 40TH TDF ANNIVERSARY MODEL v.2

[JSH]

So how is it? How does it ride in comparison to the nice bikes in your sig?

And most importantly, are you happy with it?

The Specialissima X4 is about as good as it gets IMHO. I’m not expecting greatness

 

[Woz]

Kind of agree Thread #1 didn't really run it's course fully, albeit it was going in some circles, the discussions as a whole
were correct and harmless. Most interesting for me personally, is exactly what IJohnson said:

"I also think that this bike raises a lot of questions about heritage and nostalgia and the companies that want to trade on them. And not just Raleigh. There are a lot of companies both big and small in that business. As the consumers we should be able to have a say. Whether this thread is the place for that, I don't know. Let's see where it takes us if the mods allow."

There is a point of course were history can't be re-created perfectly, and there will always be differences - large and/or small - so it may be best to just consider this modern frame as it is and compare with other modern frames on the market in a similar vain.

 

[IJohnson]

So how is it? How does it ride in comparison to the nice bikes in your sig?

And most importantly, are you happy with it?

The Specialissima X4 is about as good as it gets IMHO. I’m not expecting greatness

At least you have a good range of benchmarks.

Be interested to hear your thoughts once you've ridden it.

 

[IJohnson]

Kind of agree Thread #1 didn't really run it's course fully, albeit it was going in some circles, the discussions as a whole
were correct and harmless. Most interesting for me personally, is exactly what IJohnson said:

"I also think that this bike raises a lot of questions about heritage and nostalgia and the companies that want to trade on them. And not just Raleigh. There are a lot of companies both big and small in that business. As the consumers we should be able to have a say. Whether this thread is the place for that, I don't know. Let's see where it takes us if the mods allow."

There is a point of course were history can't be re-created perfectly, and there will always be differences - large and/or small - so it may be best to just consider this modern frame as it is and compare with other modern frames on the market in a similar vain.

Obviously this is just my opinion, but from what I've seen this doesn't look like a £1500 frame, so if we are comparing it with what else is available on the market it doesn't look favourable! For a little over half the money you can get an 853 Bob Jackson, hand-built in Britain.

So the mark up really only has value if you are trading on the heritage.

Have they done enough to warrant that? Paid due respect to the heritage?

 

[legrandefromage]

Looking at the Facebook pictures, the dropouts look awful.

 

[Rapparee87]

Kind of agree Thread #1 didn't really run it's course fully, albeit it was going in some circles, the discussions as a whole
were correct and harmless. Most interesting for me personally, is exactly what IJohnson said:

"I also think that this bike raises a lot of questions about heritage and nostalgia and the companies that want to trade on them. And not just Raleigh. There are a lot of companies both big and small in that business. As the consumers we should be able to have a say. Whether this thread is the place for that, I don't know. Let's see where it takes us if the mods allow."

There is a point of course were history can't be re-created perfectly, and there will always be differences - large and/or small - so it may be best to just consider this modern frame as it is and compare with other modern frames on the market in a similar vain.

Obviously this is just my opinion, but from what I've seen this doesn't look like a £1500 frame, so if we are comparing it with what else is available on the market it doesn't look favourable! For a little over half the money you can get an 853 Bob Jackson, hand-built in Britain.

So the mark up really only has value if you are trading on the heritage.

Have they done enough to warrant that? Paid due respect to the heritage?

Just looking at Bob Jackson's site, gorgeous frames and as you say half the price, closing down as they can't find anyone young to train up. Sad indictment on the youth of today.

 

[Woz]

Kind of agree Thread #1 didn't really run it's course fully, albeit it was going in some circles, the discussions as a whole
were correct and harmless. Most interesting for me personally, is exactly what IJohnson said:

"I also think that this bike raises a lot of questions about heritage and nostalgia and the companies that want to trade on them. And not just Raleigh. There are a lot of companies both big and small in that business. As the consumers we should be able to have a say. Whether this thread is the place for that, I don't know. Let's see where it takes us if the mods allow."

There is a point of course were history can't be re-created perfectly, and there will always be differences - large and/or small - so it may be best to just consider this modern frame as it is and compare with other modern frames on the market in a similar vain.

Obviously this is just my opinion, but from what I've seen this doesn't look like a £1500 frame, so if we are comparing it with what else is available on the market it doesn't look favourable! For a little over half the money you can get an 853 Bob Jackson, hand-built in Britain.

So the mark up really only has value if you are trading on the heritage.

Have they done enough to warrant that? Paid due respect to the heritage?

Good questions. I'll throw this in as a price consideration. It is not a one off like the Raleigh, they have been re-creating and offering this for some time, I read somewhere that they sell about 150 a year, which also may explain why the price tag for nostalgia new modern bikes is high since demand is very low.

https://harobikes.com/collections/classic-steel

Otherwise, tend to agree with your thinking. £1500 would get something very nice custom built from a small builder - if you can find one and deal with a long lead-time of course.

 

[legrandefromage]

https://harobikes.com/collections/classic-steel

Otherwise, tend to agree with your thinking. £1500 would get something very nice custom built from a small builder - if you can find one and deal with a long lead-time of course.

Always liked this: https://www.thelightblue.co.uk/Sport/5L ... ings-Retro

 

[doctor-bond]

Always liked this: https://www.thelightblue.co.uk/Sport/5L ... ings-Retro

Sloping top tube?

 

[JSH]

Re:

At the end of the day, Raleigh hasn’t put anyone’s arm up their back. It’s expensive yes and there aren’t many top end 70s/80s frames that £1500 won’t buy.