Mobile Camera Units, Parking In The Sunset?

[sylus]

yaga

ever gone 2 or 3 miles over the speed limit?

 

[Barneyballbags]

yaga

ever gone 2 or 3 miles over the speed limit?

I'm sure 99.999% of drivers have gone 2 or 3 miles over the speed limit, but that's not what the cameras are there for, and in the majority of cases, these drivers are NOT the ones who get the speeding fines.

It's the drivers who show a blatant disregard for speed limits that the cameras target and quite rightly so. The drivers I'm referring to are the ones you see going through a 30 limit at 40+ (sometimes 50+), or the ones doing 70+ on a single carriageway road.

If people are stupid enough to speed excessively then they deserve every single fine that pops through their letterbox.

 

[highlandsflyer]

For the less observant weighing in about it being a 'fair cop' and one should 'man up', I was not bitching about being caught, if indeed I was.

My point was the danger being caused.

I guess some of you just don't do much driving/riding.

The local force have a policy here of ignoring anything under 85 or so in normal circumstances. There are no fixed cameras, only mobile units, and they are supposed to operate in a manner that does not cause a hazard.

As I pointed out, I cut my speed as soon as the road turned into the sun.

I have no issue with them operating, but I also am fully aware of the effect a vehicle slamming on its anchors in response to seeing them late would have on me were I a couple of cars back from the crash it would cause.

Anyone who disputes that effect is either conveniently ignoring the reality or is too inexperienced to have a relevant point of view.

They are supposedly there to enhance our safety.

 

[sylus]

yaga

ever gone 2 or 3 miles over the speed limit?

I'm sure 99.999% of drivers have gone 2 or 3 miles over the speed limit, but that's not what the cameras are there for, and in the majority of cases, these drivers are NOT the ones who get the speeding fines.

To be honest I thought my direction was obvious and clear.

To go over 3-4 mph is no different that 20 mph in that both are breaking the lawful speed limit. It seems hypocritical to say sure I break the limit but only by 3-4 mph but I am better than those that break it by 20mph..they are the bad people

But then again in the current climate these are the same people who moan about civil rights abuses in china whilst happily buying an iphone

 

[yagamuffin]

yaga

ever gone 2 or 3 miles over the speed limit?

Yes I have.

It still amazes me that people bitch and moan about speed cameras and getting caught speeding.
MAN. THE. f**k. UP.
Everyone knows the speed limit. If you want to break the law that's fine, we all do it. But if you are stupid enough to get caught, don't moan, just man up and take the punishment.
People who try and weasel their way out of paying fines by saying the Police are in the wrong just really annoy me.

That's my tuppence worth anyway

 

[yagamuffin]

As for the danger involved. If someone is breaking the speed limit and then breaks suddenly because they have seen a speed camera and causes an accident then that is their fault entirely.

 

[93hero]

For the less observant weighing in about it being a 'fair cop' and one should 'man up', I was not bitching about being caught, if indeed I was.

My point was the danger being caused.

I think you'll find that the danger is being caused by the speeding, not the positioning of the camera.

If you (A. Driver) were doing 70 and you saw a mobile camera positioned sneakily, would you feel compelled to 'slam on the anchors'? No, you wouldn't. The situation would be safe.

However, if 'A. Driver' is doing 90 down the same road and they see the same camera in the same sneaky position, they would brake heavily and there is a possibility of a crash for the reasons you noted.

Everything is constant in the above scenarios, the only variable thats changed is the speed of the driver. It is therefore, the speed of the driver that causes the dangerous situation, not the siting of the camera.

As for them being there to enhance your safety. If you're that concerned about your personal safety, you could go someway to improve your situation by slowing your vehicle down and sticking to the speed limit.

 

[sylus]

If you (A. Driver) were doing 70 and you saw a mobile camera positioned sneakily, would you feel compelled to 'slam on the anchors'? No, you wouldn't. The situation would be safe..

Perhaps not slam but yes it's human nature to slow even when you are doing the legal speed. See a police car you automatically slow then check your speed as most would.

Also why if safety is the issue, why would you hide the very thing that identifies the risky area?

I would go as far to suggest that the vast majority of speed cameras have nothing to do with safety and more to do with revenue as shown when they withdrew them from swindon.

Speed does not cause an accident..lack of awareness/concentration and ability does..speed decides the damage done.

There are more accidents caused by driving whilst using mobile phones than speeding but speeding pays better.

 

[93hero]

speed decides the damage done.

Are you really that de-sensitized?

The 'damage' you mention isn't whether the car you hit needs just a bit of touch up paint or a wing replacing.

The 'damage' you so nonchalently talk about is whether the occupants of the car you hit live, or die. The outcome of which is directly related to how fast you are going when you hit them.

And there is a world of difference between 'checking' your brakes to make sure that you are actually somewhere round the speed limit to slamming on the anchors when you know full well that you're doing 30mph over it.

 

[highlandsflyer]

As for the danger involved. If someone is breaking the speed limit and then breaks suddenly because they have seen a speed camera and causes an accident then that is their fault entirely.

Many times people have swerved over to the left hand lane right onto me as soon as they see the camera unit, as they were hammering down the overtaking lane at massive speed. This has caused me to brake violently in turn, and have had several near misses with the cars in question and those behind me.

It is not just the speeding car braking violently that is in danger.

The responsibility of the Police and associated services is to carry out their role with the utmost regard for public safety.

They don't have a choice about maintaining high visibility when operating mobile camera units, it is the regulation under which they operate.