Mercedes 190E..any good? Yes! Pic of the one I bought page 5

[ajm]

It wasnt even broken for parts.

I understood that was part of the conditions of the scheme... Don't get me started on scrappage, anyone gullible enough to actually believe that it has done any good to the "environment" whatsoever needs to be locked up now before they do themselves or the rest of us any more harm.

 

[Easy_Rider]

It wasnt even broken for parts.

I understood that was part of the conditions of the scheme... Don't get me started on scrappage, anyone gullible enough to actually believe that it has done any good to the "environment" whatsoever needs to be locked up now before they do themselves or the rest of us any more harm.

Yeah, that was the biggest crime, not only scrapped, but cubed without anything being taken for spares. Many of these cars that have been scrapped have had brand new parts fitted to pass an MOT and then cubed a few days later :roll:

Every time I hear a suggestion that the scheme may be extended I cringe.

 

[Neil]

It wasnt even broken for parts.

I understood that was part of the conditions of the scheme... Don't get me started on scrappage, anyone gullible enough to actually believe that it has done any good to the "environment" whatsoever needs to be locked up now before they do themselves or the rest of us any more harm.

I don't recall as to whether it was really predicated on the basis of environment concerns, but surely the real reasons were to encourage more sales of new cars, to really try and stop the ar$e falling out of the car industry.

 

[legrandefromage]

the new cars sold will never EVER recoup the amount of carbon emitted during their manufacture.

Anyway that goes in the bin along with other silly Government schemes such as the Digital Switchover which in turn creates huge amounts of waste via redundant TVs, radio, freeview boxes and so on.

have another 190 pic:

 

[detomaso]

Well...just gone and bought me one.
The green 1991 one I mentioned.
2.6 Straight 6 auto ...fairly fully loaded with full service history and optional rear SLS.
£600
Thats a cheap car innit...collecting on Saturdau so hopefully its a good one.

I've got a 2.6 auto as well. LJK Setright referred to that model as being one of his favourite cars - high praise. I've had a few issues with mine but I bought it is a running-project knowing I'd have to spend a bit on it. Two things that needed sorting were starting problems and warning lights coming on sorted by replacing the OVP relay and the propshaft donuts which had worn making the gearchanges clunk rather than slur nicely - neither were expensive, especially if you are doing it yourself. As mentioned, MPG isn't great, you're lucky to see much above 25mpg but suits me as I mainly do small trips and enjoy the comfort and flexibility on long journeys.

Nice to see some 190e love

 

[Harryburgundy]

Only ridden...erm..oopps...driven it around the block so far...and it certainly brought a smile to my face. 160bhp smooth as silk auto (actually 1 to 2 is a bit clunkier than I would have like but I think sometimes a bit of cable adjustment could solve that...did on my XM anyway).
Electric windows/sunroof/aerial that all work. Not perfect but very tidy exterior. Interior is all there but dirty...out comes the steam cleaner tomorrow.
C/W original Warning triangle and First Aid Kit.
Far from mint, but a heck lot of car for £600
I'll bore you with pictures when its a bit cleaner and have the Star badge delivered and fitted.

 

[Neil]

Only ridden...erm..oopps...driven it around the block so far...and it certainly brought a smile to my face. 160bhp smooth as silk auto (actually 1 to 2 is a bit clunkier than I would have like but I think sometimes a bit of cable adjustment could solve that...did on my XM anyway).

2nd gear always takes a fair bit of wear and feels more intrusive on most autos of that era.

1st gear clutch can take a pounding, if driven by one of those drivers that puts it in neutral (or even worse, park) as soon as they're stopped waiting on the road, and 2nd because it can get a lot of usage depending on the type of life it's had.

That said, is it clutch packs on 190 autos, or were they using brake bands, then?

 

[legrandefromage]

Only ridden...erm..oopps...driven it around the block so far...and it certainly brought a smile to my face. 160bhp smooth as silk auto (actually 1 to 2 is a bit clunkier than I would have like but I think sometimes a bit of cable adjustment could solve that...did on my XM anyway).
Electric windows/sunroof/aerial that all work. Not perfect but very tidy exterior. Interior is all there but dirty...out comes the steam cleaner tomorrow.
C/W original Warning triangle and First Aid Kit.
Far from mint, but a heck lot of car for £600
I'll bore you with pictures when its a bit cleaner and have the Star badge delivered and fitted.

Theres usually a switch by the gearbox with S and E. S is Standard (not Sport) mode which pulls away in 1st depending on the position of the accelerator pedal. E is economy and pulls the car away in 2nd.

It did on my 3 W126 anyway...

 

[Neil]

Only ridden...erm..oopps...driven it around the block so far...and it certainly brought a smile to my face. 160bhp smooth as silk auto (actually 1 to 2 is a bit clunkier than I would have like but I think sometimes a bit of cable adjustment could solve that...did on my XM anyway).
Electric windows/sunroof/aerial that all work. Not perfect but very tidy exterior. Interior is all there but dirty...out comes the steam cleaner tomorrow.
C/W original Warning triangle and First Aid Kit.
Far from mint, but a heck lot of car for £600
I'll bore you with pictures when its a bit cleaner and have the Star badge delivered and fitted.

Theres usually a switch by the gearbox with S and E. S is Standard (not Sport) mode which pulls away in 1st depending on the position of the accelerator pedal.

Do you mean it may choose a different gear (say 2nd) dependant on throttle position?

It'd have to be quick, then ;-)

Some modern autos put the car in neutral when waiting / stationary for a certain number of seconds (it was based on economy / ecological reasons, apparently) - some makes had to produce software updates for the gearbox ECUs to stop them doing this, as this was radically shortening the life of the gearbox (1st gear clutch was taking a hammering) - more ammunition for leaving an auto in drive, unless you're waiting for quite some minutes.

They had to react fairly quick, though, to throttle input, which caused some hesitation when trying to move off, when the 'box would do this.

It's an odd concept, though, for an auto to choose a higher gear to move off in, for economy reasons. Some do it with things like winter mode, to try and reduce wheelspin in snowy / icey conditions. It tends to be more economical to use more revs than most seem to think for economy reasons, when moving off, because it's the engines most efficient part of it's rev range that's usually most economical for driving (not necessarily peak output).

Some modern autos use ATF and coolant temperature to determine certain behaviour - more likely when to engage lock-up - I know mine waits for certain temperatures before using lock-up through the rev range. The rationale for that, really, is getting the ATF to a good working temperature ASAP, then maintaining that (ideally not to low, not to high).

That's why I'm puzzled about your comment about the accelerator pedal?

 

[crud]

my e320 always pulls of in second, in either s or e modes. the only time it uses first is if you pin the throttle past the kickdown point.

in s (like LGF says, standard) it moves up and down the gearbox more freely.