I Find It Hard To Understand This. Police Pepper Spraying.

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The Ken":3s9qux5i said:
Their wealth gives them limitless options other than street protest, so no i have zero sympathy...they are in a position through their parents/social standing to make a real impact on policy/politics without sitting around like a bunch of dossers 'occupying' places. These kids don't know what they stand for because they don't stand for anything, its laughable.

What a pile of bollocks, the only way a normal person can influence politics without protesting is a vote nowadays but you only really get one of those every 4 years.
These kids are trying to change things in the only way they know how, and they are doing it peacefully, they should be commended for that, not slagged off for having too much time or money or getting in the way a little bit.

The officer was in the wrong (as were his supervisors) and he should be reprimanded accordingly.


You can't stand for office? you can't write to your political leader? you can't canvas for a politician who represents something you believe in?

Shall we all just take up arms every time something doesn't go our way? it isn't 1900 there are ways and means of doing things, this isn't one of them.
 
dbmtb":3pwlm8p9 said:
1duck":3pwlm8p9 said:
A) they weren't police
B) my children wouldn't be allowed anywhere near a protest whilst we are living in a democratic country, don't like something? don't vote for them.
C)Suspended not sacked, enough said really! just shows everyone agrees with what they did, but that they have to make it look like they care about the fact some nyaffs got a face full of pepper spray. Suspension is a great way to give a member of staff a holiday as a reward for actions which you agree with but can't be seen to support publicly.

Their wealth gives them limitless options other than street protest, so no i have zero sympathy...they are in a position through their parents/social standing to make a real impact on policy/politics without sitting around like a bunch of dossers 'occupying' places. These kids don't know what they stand for because they don't stand for anything, its laughable.

"My children wouldn't be allowed?"
What planet are you on? These are all people over 18 who've left home. This is like Victorian Dad out of Viz FFS. And that goes for you too Technodup.

"They don't stand for anything".
Generalisation on en epic scale there.

Sorry - not read so much tosh in here since a former member who shall remain nameless was writing his inane ramblings - in fact he made more sense than this. GoldenEra made you a massive complement by referring to what you wrote as "rhetoric".


Its funny, when i was at university in italy there was a large movement of left wing students occupying universities and threatening the teachers etc...this was the 1960s, I know plenty of 'children', for we were children even if we were in our 20s, not being allowed by our parents to take part on either side of the political divide. Although in fairness seeing the middle class children spew their spiel about maoism whilst mummy and daddy bought them a cinquecento was as hypocritical then as it is now and would have put me off taking part alongside those morons...their little protest for historical context led to hundreds of deaths...maybe if the university police had pepper sprayed them, then those people wouldn't be dead today.

I wouldn't have taken part anyway, but many friends of mine wanted to take part but were told they couldn't...it's simple if you can't control your children simply because they have turned 18 you did a terrible job of bringing them up, they clearly have no respect for you. Untill they are earning and paying their own way they are children, they are relying on finance from somewhere and as such have no way of protesting if the person with the purse strings tells them to stay home.



They do have limitless options, what do you think the earning total of the parents of all the students in a powerful university have? not to mention the political connections, the business interests etc... There are far better ways to put pressure on the government if you believe in something and your cause is worth believing in, but i'm sure the majority of their parents would tell them to grow up if they went to them for help with their 'occupy' protests. If south africa could be liberated from apartheid by a group of people who were treated as second class citizens, then its hard to believe that a bunch of mainly middle class white students can't influence policy without resorting to these tactics.

Please pray tell...what do they stand for? this i really must hear...because still no one has told us...because your post brought absolutely nothing to the table.

This has all happened in the past and i saw it first hand, they should be grateful that he didn't crack their skulls...he was very reasonable about the whole thing, he gave them plenty of time to leave but they decided to test his authority.

His suspension is little more than a pat on the back no one is going to get sacked for this, if he does it will be a complete miscarriage or pressurised by the media who love to jump on a story and make it far larger than it really is.

They should go back to class, get the education, work their way into the system and change it from there. It takes longer but its far more effective, there is nothing stopping them...its not like they are facing apartheid.
 
1duck":1yvgxc5i said:
it's simple if you can't control your children simply because they have turned 18 you did a terrible job of bringing them up, they clearly have no respect for you. Untill they are earning and paying their own way they are children, they are relying on finance from somewhere and as such have no way of protesting if the person with the purse strings tells them to stay home.

They do have limitless options, what do you think the earning total of the parents of all the students in a powerful university have? not to mention the political connections, the business interests etc... There are far better ways to put pressure on the government
That sort of sensible and pragmatic thinking will get you nowhere. :wink:
 
warpedboy2":26yvwvg9 said:
"Their wealth gives them limitless options other than street protest, so no i have zero sympathy..."

How do you know they are rich?

Because they are lucky enough to go to university? My sister went to uni, she had to work to get through, as my parnets could'nt afford to support her.

Or maybe it's because they have "the tools that capitalism provided them". What, an i-phone?! I have an i-phone, and i am proper skint. Got it free with my contract.

Get a grip.

you have a phone contract for an iphone and claim to be proper skint...its you who should get the grip. Stop falling into the mentality which traps you in skintness, the one that says you must have an iphone for instance that is 20/25 pounds a month? you can get a simcard only deal for less than 10 pounds a month and a handset for five pounds, if that doesn't seem like a better idea then you clearly aren't all that skint.

I doubt your sister would have wasted her hard paid for time protesting, one thing university taught me was that the students who paid their own way didn't party as hard, didn't spend their time at 'protests' which were usually just an excuse to drink and listen to rubbish music, infact they spent most of their time *SHOCK HORROR* studying! No, it always tended to be the sons and daughters of doctors/lawyers who wanted their little bit of rebellion.

The students who always had time to protest were always the most middle class of the bunch, crying about issues that didn't effect them, whilst spending their time off their faces on drugs and alcohol usually. It was just an excuse for another day out for most of them.
 
1duck":26pm99jr said:
because your post brought absolutely nothing to the table.

With your parsimonious attitude I'm bringing nothing to your table.

You can go hungry.

Using Italy as a comparison FFS. These people voted for Berlusconi!

"Controlling your kids".

It's all win or lose for you isn't it?
 
dbmtb":2rz1l2l1 said:
1duck":2rz1l2l1 said:
because your post brought absolutely nothing to the table.

With your parsimonious attitude I'm bringing nothing to your table.

You can go hungry.

Using Italy as a comparison FFS. These people voted for Berlusconi!

"Controlling your kids".

It's all win or lose for you isn't it?

I think i would starve if you were cooking thats for sure, those people voted for berlusconi? in the 1960s? open a history book for christs sake.
 
You know perfectly well what I meant, as did everyone else who read it.

Anyway - you can have the last word. Be my guest. Try not to make yourself look foolish this time.
 
"Using Italy as a comparison FFS. These people voted for Berlusconi!"

Ah, the arrogance of the right on. An entire nation ( or a bloody big slice of it) held in contempt because of the political choices they made :roll:
 
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