I Find It Hard To Understand This. Police Pepper Spraying.

[1duck]

:shock: Sorry ???
So people with money are a problem for you :?

when as far as i can gather their whole protest seems to be complaining about bankers earning too much...then yes it strikes me as hypocritical..

To be honest im not really clear on what exactly these people are protesting, I doubt they know either...feel free to enlighten me, in the mean time if you are told to move by the police then do as you are told.

The civil rights movement had a motive, the miners, even the iraq war i could understand even if i didn't particularly give a damn either way...but this latest occupy thing doesn't seem to have any real sort of aim to it.

 

[big.eck]

i don't see anything wrong there , if a police officer with pepper spray tells you to move , you move..........

i have no time for idiot protesters tbh , if they put as much effort into getting a job there wouldnt be any protests :roll:

 

[marky2484]

Students protesting about the abolition of EMA tracking the progress of demos on their IPhones.............hmmmmm.

 

[Ernie]

different countries give police different "powers of arrest"..
Police in this country have cuffs for restraint, baton and Parva{spray} for self protection. In some instances they will carry a taser and or firearm..but thats not the norm

That pepper spray incident would not happen in this country, unless the protesters became aggressive or violent.

I have no doubt that those protesters were given ample oppotunity to move on and i have no doubt that they were warned that pepper spray would be used.

Over here officers use the 5 step appeal {google it}..if at the end the officer will arrest then the process of removal.."lift and shift" or if the protester is "locked on" to a fixture or another protester they will be cut free.

Ernie

 

[technodup]

:shock: Sorry ???
So people with money are a problem for you :?

when as far as i can gather their whole protest seems to be complaining about bankers earning too much...then yes it strikes me as hypocritical..

Hypocrisy is lost on these cnnts.

They bemoan capitalism yet organise their protest using tools capitalism provided them.
They question others' morals yet are happy to trespass, break and enter and squat in property they do not own.
They slate business for using the law to their advantage (usually re tax) yet do exactly the same to protect themselves re eviction. (See the LSX minutes for info).

They represent only themselves, have no mandate whatsoever yet claim to espouse true democracy. A further look at the minutes shows that the concept of one member one vote one veto on every decision (inevitably) does not work, as they now have committee type structures to represent the wider group prior to and during future court proceedings. Which is broadly the same as the democratic system the country has been run by for centuries.

Fail.

Bring in the water cannon.

 

[marky2484]

+1 :x

 

[lumos2000]

California Penal Code Section 12403.7 (a) (
(g) Any person who uses tear gas or tear gas weapons except in self-defense is guilty of a public offense and is punishable byimprisonment in a state prison for 16 months, or two or three years or in a county jail not to exceed one year or by a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both the fine and imprisonment, except that, if the use is against a peace officer, as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2, engaged in the performance of his or her official duties and the person committing the offense knows or reasonably should know that the victim is a peace officer, the offense is punishable by imprisonment in a state prison for 16 months or two or three years or by a fine of one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both the fine and imprisonment.

apparently

 

[dyna-ti]

California Penal Code Section 12403.7 (a) (
(g) Any person who uses tear gas or tear gas weapons except in self-defense is guilty of a public offense and is punishable byimprisonment in a state prison for 16 months, or two or three years or in a county jail not to exceed one year or by a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both the fine and imprisonment, except that, if the use is against a peace officer, as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2, engaged in the performance of his or her official duties and the person committing the offense knows or reasonably should know that the victim is a peace officer, the offense is punishable by imprisonment in a state prison for 16 months or two or three years or by a fine of one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both the fine and imprisonment.

apparently

 

[lumos2000]

send him an email

 

[GoldenEraMTB]

There is a lot of oversimplification in this thread, along with a lack of perspective. Protest, and the right to protest, is very much a part, (at least it should be), of the university experience in America. It's an exercising of our constitutional rights. Egypt...OWS, no matter what some might think of it, has heightened an awareness that people, when united can create change or at least have an effect towards change, from the bottom, up.

The police were wrong here, but more wrong were their superiors who gave the okay. Those kids didn't deserve that, but it's a valuable lesson that sometimes there is a cost to standing for what they believe in, and that can many times be lost on kids that have grown up in country where civil liberties are taken for granted. Shame.

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