Help with Philbrook identifying mark?

[manuelschafer]

Hi there,
So pretty.... QUESTION: did he make the very first of seatbinder integraded fastback seatstays and which model of frames are pictured here in the next few photos as shown below to be precise ?
As history has it Tom R. took this aesthetic detail to early mountainbikes within his young age passion of road racing and framebuilding
just like Bill/Phil.
Thank you everyone and pls accept a detail shot of a Potts (former student of T. Ritchey) who took on the concept aswell.
My intention is to understand better who else perhaps came with such mechanical detail solution originally, if there is a story to tell..

 

[manuelschafer]

Just as appreciation for this fine craftsmans legacy anyway (hence these stunning pics) and anyhow (hoping someone can elude a bit on this slightly off/on topic inquiry )


Perhaps as in the pic with the red frame where his son took the photo back then...
Here the transport gets organised ..

ps
depending on framesize, if someone wants to relocate a brazed lugless frame without fork i would take a medium sized one (that is to say 54 or 56)

 

[Midlife]

That seat stay cluster arrangement is known as italienate, not sure if Philbrook invented it

 

[manuelschafer]

Just as yet another example, we are not talking decorative lugwork only the fact who came up with clean and simple effective binder integrated fastback stays in the first place..

My apology if this cannot be dated back to a single individual framebuilder


Royal H.

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