molokee
Retro Newbie
Here are some additional photos
sorry about the quality of the rear dropouts
Help identifying vintage steel frame — maybe Batavus, Peugeot or something else?
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sorry about the quality of the rear dropouts
juvela
Old School Hero
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thank you for the further imagery
the specific contour of the domed stay ends when combined with the dropouts is suggestive of an asian origin for the frame
when you had it in bare metal in preparation for the respray it may have been possible to read one or more tubing markings, such as at the front of the chainstays for example
if asian, tubeset would likely be either Ishiwata or Tange
an Ishiwata tubeset would leave open the possibility of a Belgian origin as well
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thank you for the further imagery
the specific contour of the domed stay ends when combined with the dropouts is suggestive of an asian origin for the frame
when you had it in bare metal in preparation for the respray it may have been possible to read one or more tubing markings, such as at the front of the chainstays for example
if asian, tubeset would likely be either Ishiwata or Tange
an Ishiwata tubeset would leave open the possibility of a Belgian origin as well
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molokee
Retro Newbie
Unfortunately, there were no markings or inscriptions.
I can send you more photos, just tell me which ones.
juvela
Old School Hero
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with respect to originalness of fork -
ends appear they may be Campag
there should be a name legible on their flat faces
markings are sometimes reduced in legibility when fork is polished in preparation for plating
dropouts appear asian so if fork ends Campag that would represent a mixed set
you could check brake reaches
frame appears late enough that it would have been constructed with the same reaches front and rear
mount some 700 size wheels and take measurements
would expect 47mm front and rear, certainly no larger than 52mm
if front and rear measurements differ that would be evidence suggesting that fork not original
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you mention searching online for a similar/matching frame without success
one thing to keep in mind as you do this is to remember that since frame came to you with a respray the presentation of braze-ons cannot be counted on to be original
you mention that some of what appears to be the original finish was present below the respray
if there was original paint colour on/around a braze-on then it would be original
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with respect to originalness of fork -
ends appear they may be Campag
there should be a name legible on their flat faces
markings are sometimes reduced in legibility when fork is polished in preparation for plating
dropouts appear asian so if fork ends Campag that would represent a mixed set
you could check brake reaches
frame appears late enough that it would have been constructed with the same reaches front and rear
mount some 700 size wheels and take measurements
would expect 47mm front and rear, certainly no larger than 52mm
if front and rear measurements differ that would be evidence suggesting that fork not original
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you mention searching online for a similar/matching frame without success
one thing to keep in mind as you do this is to remember that since frame came to you with a respray the presentation of braze-ons cannot be counted on to be original
you mention that some of what appears to be the original finish was present below the respray
if there was original paint colour on/around a braze-on then it would be original
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