Grrr cats

[IDB1]

In my opinion, if anyone allows their cat to roam freely they must accept the possible consequences of that action.

To be equitable, most dog owners seem to want others to at least have some consideration, when they encounter other peoples' mutts off lead, when they're cycling, driving, walking or whatever.

I think, generally, people should have consideration for others anyway.

Nope.. it's because cats, as stated very recently in this thread, are not designated as domestic animals.
It is also legal for a dog to kill a cat in its (the dogs) own space.
Cats that use my garden as a thoroughfare have learned to pass through quickly.

In my opinion, if anyone allows their cat to roam freely they must accept the possible consequences of that action.

Same must then apply to dogs them being far larger[for the most part] and considerably more dangerous.
Given they they are classed as dangerous and cats not are you saying firm action should be taken and in the instance of a dangerous animal killed on sight.If not either in a garden or on a lead :?

Same what must apply to dogs? Are dogs classed as dangerous?
And on what planet would you be living to glean that I am saying off lead dogs should be killed on sight?

 

[Neil]

In my opinion, if anyone allows their cat to roam freely they must accept the possible consequences of that action.

To be equitable, most dog owners seem to want others to at least have some consideration, when they encounter other peoples' mutts off lead, when they're cycling, driving, walking or whatever.

I think, generally, people should have consideration for others anyway.

Agreed - got no problem with that.

It's just that what you said gave me the impression that you kinda thought whatever happens to cat, because their owners choose to let them roam (and in fairness, that probably applies to the vast majority of cat owners) that they deserve anything that comes to them - which seems a bit like favouritism, if you subscribe to dog owners expecting some consideration, then surely it's not a stretch for cat owners to expect the same.

After all, they have no more control of their cats whilst they're outside than pigeon fanciers do, when they let them have a fly.

 

[IDB1]

Didn't say they deserve it at all. Just that they shouldn't be whining if/when something bad does happen.
If they cared that much for their pets then they would take steps to ensure their safety.

I do favour the dog over the cat, every time.. but that's not an indication that I wish them harm.

 

[IDB1]

After all, they have no more control of their cats whilst they're outside than pigeon fanciers do, when they let them have a fly.

True. But you're not allowed to shoot cats with an air rifle so they have some more protection than a pigeon does.

 

[Neil]

Didn't say they deserve it at all. Just that they shouldn't be whining if/when something bad does happen.
If they cared that much for their pets then they would take steps to ensure their safety.

Surely just the same applies, then, to dog owners who let their dogs off lead, or on long stretchy leads, in places used by other people (eg cyclists, runners, vehicles)?

That's all I'm saying - if cat owners shouldn't whine about what happens to their moggy when it goes walkabout, same is true for dog owners, no?

I do favour the dog over the cat, every time.. but that's not an indication that I wish them harm.

Think I'm a bit ambivalent to them all - I currently am a dog owner (perhaps somewhat reluctantly), and previously have owned cats (by choice).

 

[IDB1]

Didn't say they deserve it at all. Just that they shouldn't be whining if/when something bad does happen.
If they cared that much for their pets then they would take steps to ensure their safety.

Surely just the same applies, then, to dog owners who let their dogs off lead, or on long stretchy leads, in places used by other people (eg cyclists, runners, vehicles)?

Yes. It is the handlers responsibility to ensure the safety of their animal and that it doesn't negatively impact others.
'Sh!t happens' sometimes and the handler should react accordingly.

Think I'm a bit ambivalent to them all - I currently am a dog owner (perhaps somewhat reluctantly), and previously have owned cats (by choice).

We've had a couple of cats in the past.. one we took in as a rehome, she was quite sweet (natured, not to eat), the other Kirsty went and bought as a kitten. It was a demon and terrorised the kids so had to go.

 

[GT-Steve]

I came home to a present this evening..

(the £2 coin is for scale)

I love my cat(s).. Just wish they'd progress up to Pheseant, or something else I could cook up

 

[silverclaws]

When I had a cat, I never owned it, sure I fed it, let it kip here, even use the inside loo, but I didn't own the cat, as cat's are free agents, they do and go where they please. As it was yes she had a collar on, not that I was happy with collaring a cat, because of what a collar can imply, but for her own safety out on the road, it was one of those reflective ones that pillocks in cars cannot fail to see at night if they have their headlights on. The collar had one of those canisters on it and in it a message which went like this ;

The cat is called Holly, ( and yes she can be prickly as she is ex feral ), if she has found a new home and is happy, please do my the courtesy of phoning this number to tell me she is okay.

Oh and I took the bell off the collar, as I am not opposed to cats hunting birds and other small creatures, humans hunt for sport and fun, why deny cats.

 

[videojetman]

i would never have a cat, i've seen people who own cats, they come in through the back door, jump on the counter top, walking their crap covered paws all over the kitchen. the most filthy animals a household could have.

 

[dyna-ti]

i would never have a cat, i've seen people who own cats, they come in through the back door, jump on the counter top, walking their crap covered paws all over the kitchen. the most filthy animals a household could have.

Well at least the cat then goes on to lick itself clean
The dog on the other hand actively seeks shit to roll about in [or eat]then brings it home and spreads it absolutely everywhere.All along the walls,door frames,chairs.the list is truly endless
I like dogs as my best mate has 2 and they both go mental if they see me or visit or if i visit.mates says they think im another dog cos i roll about with them.Theyre big dogs so seem to prefer my hard play,body slamming etc,in fact i think they really thrive on that type of play .
But disgusting sons of bitches they most definitely are

Personally,prefer moggie-kins.
They wash themselves far more often :? in fact having observed dogs they dont seem to self clean :? .If theyre rooting about in their fur its usually some sort of parasite theyre trying to get :? or else a crumb of food

Never would i wish any animal harm,it just would not enter my mind to do so.Be that a cat,dog,pigeon,squirrel be it red grey or even black.Rats mice etc etc the list is endless.
I've spent most of my life in the meat trade.