Football hooligans.

[clockworkgazz]

to be honest I think that is pretty much the way it should be, I know there are lots of dog lovers on here who might be up in arms with a mutt being put down but if some dog came up to me and started showing that level of aggression I would want it taken out of circulation- Imagine what an animal like that could do to one of my kids, never mind an adult- got to ask yourself what type of idiot uses a dog to intimidate another person- hooligan or not :roll:

 

[cyfa2809]

yeah that does sound really biased :evil:

 

[IDB1]

to be honest I think that is pretty much the way it should be

If a dog is a threat to the general public, either in itself or because of a stupid handler (not talking about hf here.. just generally - sorry to amble off topic hf.... ) then it should be destroyed.

I had a dog destroyed because I could see her going increasingly mental.. I didn't want to look at any of my kids and see the outcome of me not 'doing the right thing'..

The missus had a dog destroyed because she was socially unacceptable.. any (strange) dog that came within sight would be targeted for the kill..
She couldn't play with our other dogs because play got out of hand and ended in fight.. that kind of animal has no place in society.

But I also believe that it should be ok for a dog to protect the handler (or their home)

 

[clockworkgazz]

suppose it all depends on how you define defend doesn't it, lots of the yuts round here seem to be itching to get thier dog to defend them given half a chance.

 

[IDB1]

suppose it all depends on how you define defend doesn't it, lots of the yuts round here seem to be itching to get thier dog to defend them given half a chance.

Indeed.. then they should be charged with either threatening behaviour or being in possession of an offensive weapon and stopped from owning animals for a few years.. or ever..

 

[highlandsflyer]

to be honest I think that is pretty much the way it should be, I know there are lots of dog lovers on here who might be up in arms with a mutt being put down but if some dog came up to me and started showing that level of aggression I would want it taken out of circulation- Imagine what an animal like that could do to one of my kids, never mind an adult- got to ask yourself what type of idiot uses a dog to intimidate another person- hooligan or not :roll:

My dogs were restrained on leads once they had grabbed a couple of carrots.

They were jumping out of my truck to say hello to the staff they normally talk to, their default action if I don't advise them otherwise. Feeling a bit anxious, I decided to let them come with me to back me up.

The bigger lad was picking up on my anxiety, dogs do that, his attitude to the idiot who was hassling me was the raised eye brow of a disapproving adult, not an out of control feral beast.

I have worked with dogs with behavioural problems for over twenty years and have never used a dog to intimidate anyone.

As backup though, damn right.

It is a psychological tool, just the same as having a couple of mates behind you.

You should not assume anything about dogs, especially when it comes to children. Despite my working closely with dogs I have never had them at home when I had young kids.

It is often the quiet, seemingly docile, animal that is most unpredictable.

There is not a court in the land that would prosecute me if my dog intervened when someone attacked me, if it did so under control.

 

[IDB1]

There is not a court in the land that would prosecute me if my dog intervened when someone attacked me, if it did so under control.

You not in England then?

 

[REKIBorter]

Talking to a young lady at work today about dogs. She lived in Turkey for a couple of years. They had a big problem with packs of dogs roaming the streets and generally frightening people. The dogs were culled to keep the numbers under control. The visiting Brits complained about the cruel actions being taken against the dogs and the culling was stopped. The dogs are now getting out of control and making certain parts of the town out of bounds.

 

[azaro]

My wimpy ginger cat could have most of these so called fottball "thugs"!
On their own, like any bullies/halfwits, they're pathetic cowards. They suddenly become incredibly brave when they're in the comfort of their gang environment.
Makes me laugh!

 

[highlandsflyer]

I think it was misunderstood why I let my dogs out.

The guy had thrown a punch at me that made me drop a box, it was a fake punch but I was wary it might be a real one next, and I did not want to be stooping down picking things up and laid upon.

My dogs were stood back, as they will always do in command.

My bigger lad ran over to a neighbour's kid who was crying a few months ago, and barked at their door to alert them that the kid was shut out of the house, hence her crying.

Imagine there was no room for discretion were the parents to have complained?

Nothing is so black and white.

I am more than familiar with the Law in England, that being the Law I studied.

Dogs that attack people don't even automatically get destroyed.

Controlled dogs that protect owners or anyone else under attack have a good chance of having no penalty imposed.