Climate change - random thoughts from the Cheese

its not 'unprecedented' dont get caught up in politicized clap-trap. Geological evidence shows previous warming/ cooling events can happen rapidly
 
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legrandefromage":3ljk06kr said:
its not 'unprecedented' dont get caught up in politicized clap-trap. Geological evidence shows previous warming/ cooling events can happen rapidly


......and before man had discovered fire, let alone DRAX power station.
 
The word 'unprecedented' can be used as there as never been a precedent for it - Have millions of people been threatened by rising sea levels, drought, or flood brought on by man's actions before? It hasn't happened to humans before!!!
 
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rosstheboss":24nhj2qy said:
The word 'unprecedented' can be used as there as never been a precedent for it - Have millions of people been threatened by rising sea levels, drought, or flood brought on by man's actions before? It hasn't happened to humans before!!!


Major ice age 1000years ago. Ice has been reducing in volume ever since.

Scientists have been predicting rising sea levels for more decades than we've been concerned with Global Warming.

We just have to get used to a changing planet. We can't stop it.

Marine transgressions are a thing of geological fact.

I'm out!
 
I thought I would post this graph as it shows temperature over a geological timescale, rather than a "human" timescale. What is very obvious from the graph is that we have just experienced one of the coolest periods in the Earth's history and we are actually returning to more "normal" temperature levels. It is also worth noting that the temperature at the Permian/Triassic boundary when there was one of the more significant mass extinctions, was waaaaay higher than today. Perhaps we are heading that way, but one thing is for sure, it will happen if Humans are here or not. We are just such an arrogant species that we assume that we must be having an effect because it offends our over inflated sense of self importance to accept that the temperature rise could be caused by anything else.

*takes deep breath and goes to lie down in a darkened room* :lol:
 

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rosstheboss":3t1jnzok said:
The word 'unprecedented' can be used as there as never been a precedent for it - Have millions of people been threatened by rising sea levels, drought, or flood brought on by man's actions before? It hasn't happened to humans before!!!

Talking about rising sea levels, you used to be able to walk over to Denmark from England, and the sticky inny bit of Wales was nice fertile low lands... all under the sea now :roll:
 
I think this thread is starting to lose it's way... I'm not saying that climate change is totally man made, but I do believe we have had something to do with it. You cannot deny that the vast deforestation around the globe and massive industrialization, for example, has had some sort of effect. Personally I believe to ignore it would be sticking your head in the sand.
 
rosstheboss":r6ymjc0j said:
I think this thread is starting to lose it's way... I'm not saying that climate change is totally man made, but I do believe we have had something to do with it. You cannot deny that the vast deforestation around the globe and massive industrialization, for example, has had some sort of effect. Personally I believe to ignore it would be sticking your head in the sand.

other natural disasters have had far more of an effect than ma. Check out volcanic eruptions.
 
rosstheboss":3lviv5vo said:
I think this thread is starting to lose it's way... I'm not saying that climate change is totally man made, but I do believe we have had something to do with it. You cannot deny that the vast deforestation around the globe and massive industrialization, for example, has had some sort of effect. Personally I believe to ignore it would be sticking your head in the sand.

The rate at which we are using our resources is unsustainable (deforestation included), nobody can argue against that. That's the real pressing issue in my opinion as I mentioned before and not CO2 emissions, which are just nice easy taxable figures.

As for walking across to Denmark, that's during our human history, there is strong evidence to suggest there are lost cities there, certainly forests.

There are petrified trees all along the beach in North Wales, where there was once forests.
 

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