Carlton Identify? - domed seatstays & square eylets

[cycletothesea]

Hi folks,
Bought this old Carlton as a work bike. Living in London, a single-speed is actually quite practical. However, I was looking to fit some mudguards and realised I hadn't seen these type of square eyelets before, and much further up the stays. Also the domed seat-stays I haven't seen. Is it a Carlton? And if so, anybody got any idea what type and how old?
Thanks

 

[Midlife]

Didn't Tel sell that frame on here a couple of years ago?

Shaun

 

[cycletothesea]

Might have done, but not to me. I think I bought it from the fella who built it up.
Do you have a link to Tel's sale. Would be interested in any info.

 

[Midlife]

viewtopic.php?f=22&t=269931

The above sprang to mind..........

Shaun

 

[MrW]

Beat me to it Shaun!

Looks very similar, does yours have the dent in the top tube?

 

[cycletothesea]

Well, the buyer (emperor) turned it into a fixie and sold it to me.

Maybe I shouldn't be using it as a work bike, and opinion on the previous thread was that it might be a classy older frame (40s/50s). Anybody know anything further????

 

[MrW]

Tel's your man I reckon

It has the dented top tube then?

 

[COUPES]

Re:

Its definitely prewar and Carlton. Just looked at the catalogues 1935-40 online, National Cycle museum have got. Not sure how they were numbered but some will know. 1930s mudguard braze-on's and headclip, headtube. 531 tubing definitely. Plain lugs, they were mass produced but its a survivor. Has it still got the clip headset?

 

[cycletothesea]

Re: Re:

Has it still got the clip headset?

What's a clip headset?

 

[Midlife]

Headclip = The headset has no locknut, its held together by a band tightened by a nut and bolt, way before my time lol. Usually the headset races are set into the frame rather than by cups.

Shaun