Car versus machine.....ha ha ha!!!!

[kingbling]

I'd had to drive to Leeds today to pick up the wife, it really stressed me out :evil: I used to love driving but I hate it now. If someone had offered me a fiver for my car there would of been a big possibility of it being sold. Wifey drove me home and will now be getting the train in future.

 

[02gf74]

Look-ah here
What's all this?
Never thought I'd do this before
But here I am ah-knockin' on her door
My car's out front and it's all mine
Just a '95 Ford not a '59

 

[xerxes]

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I'll name that tune in one, er, 6 lines.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvd4PM8cBSA[/youtube]

 

[Chopper the ex Copper]

I used to cycle commute 24/7, 365, rural roads, 8 miles each way. What you propose is easily achievable.

 

[LikeClockwork]

Re:

Certainly, even though I've sourced another car, I have every intention of looking very carefully at how many of my jobs could be cycled to, even if I only do it in the summer and on nice days. 90% of the ride to any of my destinations would be on very rural roads and lanes, so it could only be a pleasant experience, and I'm sure it will also have a beneficial effect on my mental state too!

 

[mk one]

Traffic isnt pleasant when cycling round lanes, wing mirrors really hurt, then you have to consider the rain, wind and tiredness after a days work. Cars can be useful sometimes. You could always get limited mileage insurance or just insure for certain months, to save money, or get an even older car that's mot and tax exempt

Just voicing the other side of the debate so to speak

Mark

 

[Chopper the ex Copper]

^those are excuses, not genuine barriers. Its attitudes s like that killing our planet and creating the largest credit bubble in the history of our economy as people use finance to perpetuate their car ownership.

If you want to go carless you will do so and will overcome any challenges. If you're weak willed, lazy, or don't car about the planet, or all three, you'll find weak excuses to justify your choice.

 

[The History Man]

And you're back in the room.

 

[mk one]

^those are excuses, not genuine barriers. Its attitudes s like that killing our planet and creating the largest credit bubble in the history of our economy as people use finance to perpetuate their car ownership.

If you want to go carless you will do so and will overcome any challenges. If you're weak willed, lazy, or don't car about the planet, or all three, you'll find weak excuses to justify your choice.

i never said they were barriers, just considerations. I agree that cars along with most other industrially produced distractions, even the computer you are using, are bad for the environment, and people themselves. And money was invented/designed to produce debt and ultimately control.

Anyway, enough of the light hearted banter, the suns just came out.

 

[highlandsflyer]

^those are excuses, not genuine barriers. Its attitudes s like that killing our planet and creating the largest credit bubble in the history of our economy as people use finance to perpetuate their car ownership.

If you want to go carless you will do so and will overcome any challenges. If you're weak willed, lazy, or don't car about the planet, or all three, you'll find weak excuses to justify your choice.

The choice is not quite as binary as suggested.

People who reside in genuinely remote locations are not served by infrastructure found elsewhere. Buses or trains become less frequent, or are themselves distant to access.

The other day we popped over to collect folks off Cairngorm and they said they could have got the bus. Once home we worked out that would have taken over three hours. They assumed the buses would be as they are in the south. The weather deteriorated as we drove home; had they cycled they would have been in peril.

Cycling is best as an option, rather than the only option.

Those who always reach for the car keys might feel the need to limit their choice in order to ensure they use a bike; but the rest of us who have always done their bit to save the planet need not take on the guilt of those for whom environmental concerns are the latest thing they discovered when briefly pulling their heads out of their sand pits.

We use whatever works for whatever purpose. 25 year old petrol/lpg Range Rover getting 25 equivalent on lpg with the lovely burble of a lazy V8, or a 3.3 petrol people carrier barely making 20mpg. Couldn't care less what the cissy right on crowd think. The last group of soaked and frozen walkers we rescued off the hill were renewables students. They weren't complaining about the minibus's turbo diesel propelling them to a warm soup and socks off by the peat fire.

The future generations can look after themselves.