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But my MTB mates didn't. I'm not into doing pub stops alone. And the publican's (lack of) business acumen and profitability is not my concern
As negative as my post might have read, I actually have nothing against MTBing. I tried it and much prefer roadbiking, simples. The OP read to me with a "why do fools road bike?" slant, so I got on a defensive. I acknowledge all cyclists when out on my bike, so have no real mental divisions re type of cyclist. I reckon Ive done my arguing on this thread, time to move on
Unless you're super fit, it's always gonna end up the same couple of 10 mile routes around home. For me, that's not "getting out there", its a local ride, and I'd soon be bored ... but that's just mevelomaniac":o2v5d1y9 said:MTB can start from your back door, have some imagination.
50+ miles on an mtb with mud tyres is beyond me mate, but may be possible for someAgain you can do that om an mtb both on and off road.
I know mudguards well, just ask MikeMuzNever heard of mudguards ? Plus publicans who ban mtb riders are losing money

yeah, ok, but the opportunities are lessenedSo can I, not all tracks are single track.
aye, I live in Sheffield, none worse. But road potholes are noticed at a distance, as they stand out from an otherwise smooth road. Off road routes are mottled and bumpy all over and need extra close watch to pick out hazzards]Have you seen the state of British roads ?
Indeed. But an MTB needs far more immediate fettling. I got back from a road ride yesterday. It was dark, so bike went in shed without any cleaning. Next weekend, it will all work well with zero attention. Had I been MTBing, it would be covered in water/shit/mud and wouldn't work straight off.Anything you look after lasts, there are many road bike rust heaps.
but then we're talking nature trails, canal paths etc. Maybe we differ, but that bores me, something I do with the kids with a picnic in my rucksack. I love "proper" geographical landNobody has to do that on or off road, thats a choice thing.
Indeed they do. I'm not saying they must shift, but it spoils the flow of a ride/climbthey have as uch right to be there as I, a little courtesy goes a long way.
oh yes, definitely. But some of those modern dual sussers with 130mm travel and 3inch tyres look ugly brutes. Having said that, so do many carbon roadbikesOn retrobike many mtb's look classy and not like motorbikes.
maybe, but I reckon its cos out in the peaks roadbiking is big. There are groups and riders everywhere. Any driver who wants to rant at cyclists would do so all day long, there are that many. Plus I reckon the theory about more people cycling creates acceptance, holds true.You dont get animosity from car drivers because most of the time they dont register your even there which as the OP stated is a major part of the problem.[/color]
As negative as my post might have read, I actually have nothing against MTBing. I tried it and much prefer roadbiking, simples. The OP read to me with a "why do fools road bike?" slant, so I got on a defensive. I acknowledge all cyclists when out on my bike, so have no real mental divisions re type of cyclist. I reckon Ive done my arguing on this thread, time to move on