Best Canti's?
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marin man":1ntt86du said:
No, not joking at all, and its between myself and Russell. Affordability doesn't come into it either.
Why on on earth would I 'slate' anybody for spending their own money? That really is trolling for an argument.
The whole point of my first post was to take time in the set up -
legrandefromage":1ntt86du said:
legrandefromage":1ntt86du said:
No mention there of affordability - just drumming home the fact that they take time to set up no matter what the cost. A point missed by both yourself and Russell, further enhanced by the fact you both now seem to looking for an argument when there wasn't one.
*edit: definitely nothing to contradict Sheldon's site there either, so why claim I'm looking for an argument?
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marin man":2p6g2fk5 said:I had some marin lite cantis that people generally slate and I found them plenty powerful.....pig to set up though but I liked them...
There you go, you've summed up the whole problem with cantis perfectly!
They take time to set up, thats their Achilles.
When V-brakes appeared they must have seemed like manna to the masses, the on/off effect would have been a revelation. The fact that I was using Hope discs at the time is an entirely different matter and would take a whole heap of threads to sort out.
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Russell":3ku2yy5y said:
Er, you came back and threw yet another hissy fit? Complaining the threads gone over to flirting and personal attacks when all there was was just a bit of rib tickling. Then ignoring everything else thats been written and whining that the whole sites gone away from the mystical halcyon days of the past where we all blew smoke up each others ass?
Cantilevers suck! They do! The tension springs, the uneven pad wear, the cables, the bloody canti hangers, the yokes etc etc. The whole point about them though is that we seem to love em for all there faults. Ahh the £ signs when we brake in the mud - worn out rims on ebay with nearly convex sides...
Yet we all persist in using them, we seek out the NOS, that treasured XT or XTR logo on the pads every time we look down. The pages and pages of 'which is better' arguments - You should have been here last year, modern verses retro! Jeeze what a roller coaster!
''Best Canti's?''
Non of them, they are all rubbish, but you'll have a hell of a lot of fun finding out.
*edit: thats why 4 of my favourite bikes have cantis
**edit: because cantis got me hook, line and sinker....
Calm down please. Don't get my thread locked :cry: .
Thought I'd just post up what a good experience I'd had with these Suntour cantis compared to anything else.
I must also add they were really simple to set up as well, but I will persevere with the wide Shimano's too.
Wasn't expecting it to turn into a fight.
Carl.
Thought I'd just post up what a good experience I'd had with these Suntour cantis compared to anything else.
I must also add they were really simple to set up as well, but I will persevere with the wide Shimano's too.
Wasn't expecting it to turn into a fight.
Carl.
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Indeed.
Although the subject of cantis always proves to be very divisive, there really is no need to argue about it in an unpleasant way.
Personally, while I acknowledge advancements in technology have undoubtedly made brakes easier to set up to give more powerful and consistent results, it's also true that many variables come into play.
With cantis a major factor is of course the brake pad, design and to some extent, the materials of the lever and the brake arm.
But it's also true that perhaps the most important factor is how they are set up. To get good power and modulation with cantis takes time, patience and technique.
V-brakes are quick and easy to set up correctly, whereas cantis can take alot of fine tuning.
With good pads, time and good set up, you can get as much power out of a canti as you can a v-brake.
But with mediocre pads, very little time and a mediocre set-up you can get the same power from v-brakes. Spend a bit more time and get better pads and v-brakes do of course give more power.
And while more brake power is always nice, it isn't always necessary.
Although the subject of cantis always proves to be very divisive, there really is no need to argue about it in an unpleasant way.
Personally, while I acknowledge advancements in technology have undoubtedly made brakes easier to set up to give more powerful and consistent results, it's also true that many variables come into play.
With cantis a major factor is of course the brake pad, design and to some extent, the materials of the lever and the brake arm.
But it's also true that perhaps the most important factor is how they are set up. To get good power and modulation with cantis takes time, patience and technique.
V-brakes are quick and easy to set up correctly, whereas cantis can take alot of fine tuning.
With good pads, time and good set up, you can get as much power out of a canti as you can a v-brake.
But with mediocre pads, very little time and a mediocre set-up you can get the same power from v-brakes. Spend a bit more time and get better pads and v-brakes do of course give more power.
And while more brake power is always nice, it isn't always necessary.
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Modern cantis are quite nice too. Yes, I'm shallow. ( it's such a pity I can't spell a raspberry 
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