Beginner (pre-beginner!) - starters for 10

Ajoten

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Newbie.

As someone who wants to do a vintage project, with minimal budget and knowledge but a willingness to save up for components and learn, I'm conscious of getting something cheap and finding myself with a useless lemon that I throw lots of £ at and ends up at the tip.

1. Would I be better punting on a complete bike (up to £150) as something possibly quicker to get on the road due to having period parts (even if they need replacing I could see what they are and how they are put together)... or frame and forks (up to £75) as it suggests things like seat posts and bottom bracket manifestly aren't seized?

2. I only want to get something older than me as I don't want to consider MYSELF "vintage", which means pre 1970 (preferably a racer, no doubt impossible given my budget). Are there any basic features (or lack thereof) which are a good indication of a bike being either side of this watershed?

Any advice welcome.

Andrew.
 
In my experience it always works out more expensive to start with a frame and buy components to suit - but you get to build the bike you want if you do it this way.

60s components are way harder to find than 1970s and newer, so buying a complete bike and giving it a good going over totally makes sense, finacially. Frame re-finishing can also be expensive, so looking for one which is tatty but useable is always my choice unless it's something special.

£150 will definitely get you quite a nice 60s bike, you might find a good complete 50s lightweight for that money, and it should also get you a fairly nice factory-built bike from the 40s (Raleigh, BSA, Sun etc).
 
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No unsalvageable Carltons? Cool.

So are there certain features that identify those Carltons older than 45 yrs?
 
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Really nice find, annoyingly 2" too big for my short legs.

From what I read braze-ons and the brake lever extensions wotsits indicate something post 1970s? Anything else?
 
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