highlandsflyer
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Realising there is no such thing as 'normal' is a great start to embracing diversity.
Aspergers traits ?....my odd behavior
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embracing diversity is a great comment.
I wish I could remember to do so on a permanent basis.
I wish I could remember to do so on a permanent basis.
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Is it a bad time to bring up IQ?
I'll get me coat...
I'll get me coat...
I've heard that argument before - illlnesses or conditions being "invented" to excuse certain behaviour.greenstiles":38aba4j6 said:
Have to say, I think it's largely a crock - I don't believe science and medicine work that way.
Most of the people I notice arguing this point, just seem to be using it as a crutch because they don't like the proposition, or it suits their preferences or beliefs.
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here you go fellas
diagnose yourselves
www.wired.com/wired/archive/9.12/aqtest.html
Greenstiles while not wishing to enter into any sort of debate with you , you describe working/volunteering is social care and successfully being able to engage with service users. I feel that if you had aspergers you would be completely unable to read or understand or react to the myriad of subtle nuances involved in a social interaction of this type. While it is, i understand from working for 6 years in a secondary school for ASD and Aspergers kids, possible, to learn to mask the social difficulty resultant from aspergers in everyday and familiar situations, I feel it would be impossible or at least very difficult to do so in the interactions you described. in doing so you would need to cognitively leave the situation for prolonged periods, while processing what has been said for instance and interpreting that along with context, with body language, with tone of voice, with facial expression, then yourself having to decide upon a response and how that response should be delivered, your own tone , body language etc. This is what non aspergers do automatically and unconciously.
That being said i have little time for small talk , at social gatherings i find social chit chat pointless also, it seems so false and surface, you say this, i say that, we both laugh, i say this you do that. Its like this well rehearsed and meaningless dance we do. E.g so what do you do, oh i do this, really that must be interesting blah blah fecking blah.
My wife is a very social creature, I can hear her at a party reciting the same anecdotes from recent events virtually word for word, she has told to me earlier that day. Once i have said something to someone, e.g i have told my wife about something that happened, it has been used up if you like, i cant repeat it as its no longer a new or unique thing to say.
diagnose yourselves
www.wired.com/wired/archive/9.12/aqtest.html
Greenstiles while not wishing to enter into any sort of debate with you , you describe working/volunteering is social care and successfully being able to engage with service users. I feel that if you had aspergers you would be completely unable to read or understand or react to the myriad of subtle nuances involved in a social interaction of this type. While it is, i understand from working for 6 years in a secondary school for ASD and Aspergers kids, possible, to learn to mask the social difficulty resultant from aspergers in everyday and familiar situations, I feel it would be impossible or at least very difficult to do so in the interactions you described. in doing so you would need to cognitively leave the situation for prolonged periods, while processing what has been said for instance and interpreting that along with context, with body language, with tone of voice, with facial expression, then yourself having to decide upon a response and how that response should be delivered, your own tone , body language etc. This is what non aspergers do automatically and unconciously.
That being said i have little time for small talk , at social gatherings i find social chit chat pointless also, it seems so false and surface, you say this, i say that, we both laugh, i say this you do that. Its like this well rehearsed and meaningless dance we do. E.g so what do you do, oh i do this, really that must be interesting blah blah fecking blah.
My wife is a very social creature, I can hear her at a party reciting the same anecdotes from recent events virtually word for word, she has told to me earlier that day. Once i have said something to someone, e.g i have told my wife about something that happened, it has been used up if you like, i cant repeat it as its no longer a new or unique thing to say.
greenstiles
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Thanks for the link, i've done about 5 online tests so far and always come up aspie. I don't think i am. But as i said earlier i am forcing myself into situations i'd rather avoid and fill me will dread as i know that's the only way i will ever deal with them, but that could easily be down to up bringing, other mental health. I know i would rather be able to socialise / enter new situations with ease, but cannot. I force myself (it's not nervousness) to attend thing, then other days i wont even go out the door, cos i've had enough of contact with people.
There appears to be a big sliding scale within the autism spectrum, where not all behaviors are present. I would imagine there is a lot of room for things to be missed due to an individuals own collection of behaviors and the degree of said behaviors. I'm not a professional, just going by aspies i've met, stuff of the net and people on here.
I put a question mark in the title as i have no real idea, but as there are a lot of interesting people on here i thought i would see if other people related.
There appears to be a big sliding scale within the autism spectrum, where not all behaviors are present. I would imagine there is a lot of room for things to be missed due to an individuals own collection of behaviors and the degree of said behaviors. I'm not a professional, just going by aspies i've met, stuff of the net and people on here.
I put a question mark in the title as i have no real idea, but as there are a lot of interesting people on here i thought i would see if other people related.
grahame
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My OCD-type behaviours include (but are not limited to)
Refusing to walk on the cracks in the pavement (in case the bears eat you)
Always starting off up or down a staircase with my right foot and finishing with my left foot, even if this means skipping a stair.
When drinking on a bike ride, always taking a prime number of gulps: 1(not strictly a prime number, but allowed under "my rules"), 2, 3, 5, 7, or 11 gulps.
As a friend of mine puts it "They say I have OCD. I prefer to call it CDO because then the letters are in the right order."
Refusing to walk on the cracks in the pavement (in case the bears eat you)
Always starting off up or down a staircase with my right foot and finishing with my left foot, even if this means skipping a stair.
When drinking on a bike ride, always taking a prime number of gulps: 1(not strictly a prime number, but allowed under "my rules"), 2, 3, 5, 7, or 11 gulps.
As a friend of mine puts it "They say I have OCD. I prefer to call it CDO because then the letters are in the right order."
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See is social situations i too feel awkward, but i recognise that it is due to all other sorts of stuff filling my mind at that given time, my own anxieties, insecurities and worries if you like.
in a one to one with a service user all that bullshit and pretense in "normal interactions" goes, there is no, or at least should not be, any imagined judging that occurs either way. there is then purity if you like to the interaction. Its the same with family and friend and partners, those people we are entirely comfortable with. I think that is what you describe in how natural and unstunted your interaction with you mental health guy was.
Good to hear you are making your own judgements on the people you meet and not allowing them to be clouded or coloured by the views of others and the rubbish often written down about people too, you might want to read up on post modernism and the importance of allowing someone to be free, in a situation with you, from the narratives that have previoulsy been written for them by others and all that.
in a one to one with a service user all that bullshit and pretense in "normal interactions" goes, there is no, or at least should not be, any imagined judging that occurs either way. there is then purity if you like to the interaction. Its the same with family and friend and partners, those people we are entirely comfortable with. I think that is what you describe in how natural and unstunted your interaction with you mental health guy was.
Good to hear you are making your own judgements on the people you meet and not allowing them to be clouded or coloured by the views of others and the rubbish often written down about people too, you might want to read up on post modernism and the importance of allowing someone to be free, in a situation with you, from the narratives that have previoulsy been written for them by others and all that.
greenstiles
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grahame i used to have to swich lights on/off 4 times..........and had a mantra on constant repeat in my head for 7 years morning noon night as i woke and before sleep.......but that has religious/other mental health aspects to it i'm guessing. People would have only wittnessed a slight external delay when talking to me as i had to finish the mantra in my head and move on to the next thing......................i tell you one thing the day i chose to stop doing it..........boy that was a tough thing. The silence was odd :!:
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