sylus":2p3muhmc said:
I remember working at a motorcycle dealers. It was run/owned by two blokes..one was probably the best boss I've ever had and the other..I'm sure even his own kids hated him.
I remember telling him he was to people skills what adolf hitler was to judiasm...not long after that things rose to a point I decided to go work for honda in swindon..anyway
It's a funny thing, but I always look back at some of the managers I had earlier on in my career, and in some ways, wish I was still working for them now.
Not saying they were all good or perfect - but a lot of what I hate about modern working life, many wouldn't have been quite so easily emasculated. One particular boss I had - not much in the way of personnel skills, not tactful, you may often disagree with, he'd kick your arse if you did something wrong, or weren't good / clever enough (and if sustained would have just moved you out of his team). But there was something good about it all, too. I'd happily socialise with him - even if there may be instances where I'd have a row with him - we'd soon put it behind us, and it would have been said. And knowing you had to perform, you did - there was no being officious and talking about training courses, or not having had your hand held.
He was most definitely not PC - and quite often sexist, where it concerned work and ability (ie he wasn't a total male chauvinist, he loved women, just didn't particularly want to have many / any working for him - it wasn't a thing about relating to women, he just steadfastly had some beliefs about women and certain types of work - other than that, though, and he kinda reminded me of Bulldog from Frasier where women were concerned).
As time has gone on, and I've moved on, things and management styles have changed. Managers seem to have become pragmatic and acquiesced to many things, that I wonder whether some from a previous era would have tolerated.
As an example - there once was a time - say if somebody from outside of your area complained about somebody in your own area, the manager would have dealt with it, but shown some defence and support for his staff. He may then of kicked ass, afterwards, in private, but to outside of his area, he would have shown support for his staff. These days, it seems quite different, managers just seem to cave in to things like that - because it seems much easier to hassle your own people, than be strong and firm with others or superiors.
Now I realise I've used the male pronouns in that paragraph, but that's largely because in that early part of my career, and to a certain degree, now, managers have been largely male (with a couple of exceptions for indirect managers) - it's not a sexist thing, these days I tend to hate male managers just as much as I hate female managers - I'm strictly equal opportuinities when it comes to manifesting the hate...