Are traditional Local bike shops dead ?

robin":2t1fp2q8 said:
the only thing i am finding with my local bike shops, is that they are not carrying much stock , so when i go to buy for example a fairly standard headset and they get on the computer and tell me it will arrive in 2 days and it will cost more than what i could of got it for online. i can't help but feel that i should of just order it online and not waste my time going to the shop.

i would definitely be happy to pay more to keep my local services, but i do want them to provide a service and part of that is not just to have pretty stuff in the window but to have parts in the stock room.

feels a bit like when you go to the doctors and he get on google to find out what's wrong with you!

sorry and thankyou i feel better for airing

I think that fairly describes the dilemma most of us have. However in my case the lbs also trues wheels, has the brake bleeding kit, installs headsets etc at prices that are always very reasonable. So much so it is not worth buying specialist kit.

You have to accept that the LBS has to make a margin somewhere and what is the alternative? In my case the nearest alternatives / multiples are 20+ miles away.

How often do you really need something that quick and in any case my LBS will usually price match.
 
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We've got at least four independents within a mile that I've used personally and I regularly have to refer my trainees across Enfield and Barnet to their local bike shops. The place is covered with them, catering to tri-athletes, would be peleton riders, commuters, kids, mountain bikers and a few places that specialize in used bikes.
 
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The problem in terms of stock for most independent shops is that firstly, putting capital into lots of physical stock isn't an option due to cash flow. Supply on demand, like most industries nowadays is the only economically viable option.
Added to that, there are many instances where the big online stores like CRC and Wiggle are actually even cheaper than some wholesalers.

Competing with the big online companies would be financial suicide.

Fortunately though, bikes can't be serviced or repaired by clicking a mouse, and cycling is very popular at the moment.
So there is still a place for me.
 
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Corporate consolidation/centralization (through mergers and acquisitions) and 'Big Box retailization' are maladies ubiquitously infarcting the known, western world.

bye bye mom 'n pop operations - hello made in China.
 
I think one of the biggest issues with stock is changing standards, for example a couple of years back they only had to stock 700c & 26" tyres and tubes now they have to stock; 26", 29", 700c and 650b, which cost more so they can't afford to stock as much of each.
 
Ghosty":iqpbsm5s said:
A Halfords Cycle Republic opened recently in Manchester but I've no reason to go in there, can't comment on it. If they sell Apollos in there then I'm never going in on principle.
There's an EBC but all they seem to do is sell hybrids and such to Didsbury commuters on B2W and a few own-brands (I really don't see Revos that often, a lot less than I used to) - that said they were pretty helpful when I ran in one lunchtime on a Pug with a dodgy bottom bracket, more out of necessity than anything.
And Evans is just too expensive - bottom brackets are £10 or £15 cheaper on Amazon, and they're far more likely to have the right size, whereas Evans have about five on the shelf in any size combination at all. I seldom find what I'm actually looking for in Evans, either they don't have it or it's just too pricey.

They've opened a cycle republic near me, I walked around it when it opened but couldn't see anything that was for me.
 
ibbz":11dp4vpp said:
Is the good old skool local bike shop dead?
There used to be a good few here in Waltham Forest in London - almost all gone except Heals Cycles in chingford and Station Cycles next to wood st station Walthamstow which is mess.
All the other Indy ones - Bellchambers, Ditchfields etc gone.

I've noticed the choices these days are either Halfords and Evans or other boutique upperty shops usually in trendy parts such as Islington and Hackney or Shorditch or Bethnal Green - some dedicated to these new fangled Chinese made multicolour fixie junk

How's it like elsewhere ?

It's hard to tell from this and subsequent posts what it is exactly you want? There are plenty of independent bike shops fairly local to you as pointed out by Jerky, but they are either not local enough or too trendy or too something?

If you mean: 'Is the good local old skool bike shop that had loads of cool stuff at 1990s prices and is staffed by genial tea-supping men in brown coats who'll do complicated, time-consuming jobs on your bike for a pittance 'cos you're local and who order things in especially for you even though they aren't in stock and then kindly agree to discount it on account of the fact that you are a regular customer and "it's cheaper on the internet" and don't cater to the ever-burgeoning high-end road or low-end multi-coloured fixie market but just sort of deal with the things that I need, now dead?', then the answer is yes.

As outlined by numerous responses to this thread, bike shops are either not carrying the thing people want, right now, at the price that they want, are not able to fix their bike correctly or in a time-frame suitable for them or simply are selfishly catering to a market that is not their thing. I would say the problem most LBS's have now is not the internet, or competition, it's something all the more intangible and harder to react to: expectation.

I know of one proper old school bike shop in my neck of SW London, it's the kind of dusty place with a bell on the door where you are guaranteed a short, slightly stern answer to almost any question, but they will go up to the store room and pull down a 6 speed Regina freewheel in the packet with the original £16.99 price sticker on it if you ask. By virtue of the fact they own the building they work from they have survived this long, though it has become clear over the years that they are really struggling and the workshop is the only way they make any money, fixing cheap fixies and kid's bikes.

FWIW, Evans, Cycle Surgery, Halfords, EBC etc all have some great staff members, are geared to serving a much larger section of the cycling community than is represented by the demographic on this site and have made a great success of a business that has seen many, many people fail.
 
I was very disappointed when I finally got a chance to go into my closest LBS for the first time. They weren't interested in tensioning/truing some wheels I had laced (despite saying they would do this) and when I then asked about getting wheels built they said they only wanted to do it if they supplied the rim/hub else it wasn't worth their while. They also even said to me that they had plenty of business so didn't really need mine, which was kind of out of the blue and certainly doesn't encourage me to ever go there again or point anyone else in that direction.

Another shop are happy to build wheels (well, they send them away to be done) at a very reasonable price, but they're a bit further away so it's not easy for me to get the parts there and wheels back.

Wheel building is probably all I'm likely to use LBSs for, since I don't think I'm ever likely to get to the point where I am happy with my ability to do it myself.
 
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