Aero Garbage Wind Resistant a lie

[Guinessisgoodforyou]

Only if it has a Ducati badge on it.

Only for 100 yards until it breaks down

 

[novocaine]

Only for 100 yards until it breaks down

Ducati are one of the fastest, fuel efficient motorcycles on the market today.

The range rover towing the trailer it's on though.......

edit to say, I'd still have another one. I'm nearly the perfect owner. I ride rarely, only when it's sunny and I don't go very far.

 

[Splatter Paint]

Early noughties… it was all about weight. That was easy for the consumer: light = good (if it does’t break).

Aero, well, it is claimed to be X watts faster. Under what conditions though? Cross-wind, rough road, smooth road? Is it aero because of the enforced riding position? Does it matter to the Sunday cyclist in reality? Do you get home 3 minutes quicker to take the kids out to their friend’s party? Would they save the same amount of time by just changing their position on the bars of their existing bike?

Racers I get, but for everyone else, does their aero bike improve the experience over what they were riding before? Lighter bikes certainly did. I read somewhere heavier aero wheels were in part faster because there was more rotational mass!

In 2013 I had a Giant TCR Advanced Team Edition. An absolutely brilliant, stiff, quick bike. But 100 miles in the saddle would break me, so extreme in terms if position and ride quality. I sold it and bought a Defy instead. So much more comfortable, but very boring.

 

[Ippikin]

Old versus modern >>There is a recent GCN video on YT showing a five time everesting ascent of the Stelvio road pass, up and down. The presenter rides a beautiful slx steel classic Pinarello for the final ascent and whinges about the gearing, weight, uncomfortable 'round' bars and so on compared to his modern bike. But that is by far the best looking bike there and he looks good riding it! Even he concedes that it is well made and that the gears change well. Worth checking out....

 

[Coalfield]

Thank goodness that you folks aren't so technically inclined that I have to read about the watts lost or gained across all reasonable yaw angles for all the various aero and non-aero framesets.

t'was over a year ago - can't find the article - that someone attempted to determine if certain frame coatings were a few watts faster through the wind. Is a nude CF frame faster than a painted one? Vinyl frame covering better than paint? not sure if red paint is faster than black paint - and other such hairsplitting. I do know one thing - a greased pig is slipperier to catch and hold than a clean pig- if that might have any relevance!!!


edit: I'm totally in favor of aero frames, wind tunnel & real world testing, TT bikes, aero bikes, climbing bikes, etc. And totally in favor of believing that these small variables have little or no practical meaning for even aggressive (non-professional) cyclists. (except for bragging rights.)

Still working on the engine and positioning - if not out for just a pleasurable jaunt.

 

[Nob]

I loved this picture of a great aero position, speed & of course a champion winning ride from a legend back in the day in 1977

 

[LondonClassic]

The case against TT bikes by ex Soviet national team TT rider Nikolai Razouvaev.

 

[Scott-S]

The case against TT bikes by ex Soviet national team TT rider Nikolai Razouvaev.

That was a great read, thanks for the share

 

[Guinessisgoodforyou]

The case against TT bikes by ex Soviet national team TT rider Nikolai Razouvaev.

Excellent read, the doping article was also very good. He writes very well.

 

[LondonClassic]

Excellent read, the doping article was also very good. He writes very well.

Yeah, he has an economy and straightforwardness to his writing thats refreshing. I just wish he would write more, no articles for some time.