Aero Garbage Wind Resistant a lie

[ChromeChainstay]

I don't care about TT bikes at all and positively hate working on the fecking things.
The OP says aero is a lie, I'm just saying that it's not. Marginal, maybe, but it's there.
Also, 'each to their own', George cares about my Bontragers as much as I care about his 'torture device'.

i was insinuating that the original picture, by looking at the frame and all it's outlying parts is the opposite of aero) looks like a fookin' mess. it aint Shimano AX

 

[pigman]

Shall we introduce the triathlete while we're about it

No! They turn their bikes upside down to change a wheel

 

[pigman]

Agreed, I much prefer classic looks. But as a tool to win I'll take everything technical and scientific I can get, I don't care how it looks. It just needs to work.

Any phials in your fridge?

 

[pigman]

Fairing is what we need.

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I initially read Farting.
Maybe that's correct

 

[Guinessisgoodforyou]

Any phials in your fridge?

Only my meds

 

[Rapparee87]

That crash with 5km to go in the Tour today, Almeida's big fat tyre exploded and came off the rim apparently. Yesterday's hero Ben Healy was brought down, along with two Bahrain riders, one of whom, Jack Haig, had to abandon.

All this so called 'tech' is shite..

 

[Russell]

Yes, because tyres never used to come off the rim. Kit never used to fail and riders never used to crash

 

[bikeworkshop]

There are too many riders at the start of the race, teams having to push through the crowd of bikes in narrow streets at 50kmh+ in the last few km.

It gets easier once 20 riders are injured out.

If I did that to my customers or employees id go to prison.

Reminds me how the organisers stuck their heads in the sand while riders were having to administer blood transfusions to each other in their hotels in the middle of the night to keep competitive.

Who got the blame?
The riders.

 

[pigman]

You really are living up to your username with this post.

Amongst the sheep do you include all the women who are barely over 5'? Do you want them on 177.5 cranks and 46cm bars because you do, or do you decide for them what is right? How about the triathletes who have proven shorter cranks allow for better transition into the running after the bike element? or the current top tour riders who have dropped 10mm off their cranks? or people who, god forbid, just want to try shorter to see if it does make a difference to their performance, or in overcoming injury/disability? or TTers who can get just that little bit lower to flatten their backs for more aero?

I take offence at your small minded, judgemental, opinionated post because you will include me in the flock. I have gone shorter and shorter and have settled on 145mm. I am a 6' chunk and i have done this because my knees are goosed with arthritis and no ACL's and it is an actual real fact that shorter aggravates MY knees way less than cranks 30mm longer. Maybe i should have asked you first? What am i allowed, Nob?

Just imagine that you may have gone even faster if you had tried shorter cranks than being a sheep and used what everyone else was using back then and now you will never know what you were capable of. None of us will know because of the non science fads prevalent in british time trialling back then.

A bit harsh and personal for my tastes there and not really the ethos of this group IMO.
I think what he's inferring is what is suddenly happening out there in the world of race bikes. Pog has suddenly declared he's on 165s and is making winning look a breeze, so suddenly the sheep (and in this instance this is the correct word) are suddenly converting their bikes to 165 cos it's a surefire way to winning. I don't think he was suggesting someone at 5' or with health conditions needs 177.5s or be they damned.
I ride 172.5s. I recently tried 170s and 165s (using £10 bike jumble cranks) and it just doesn't work for me. I can't get the power through those uphill undulations. Now maybe if I trained harder, gave it longer and embraced the science, I could get it to work, but at my age and with commitments and health conditions, I'm not going to embark on a dedicated training programme to get an extra 1mph on a climb

 

[bikeworkshop]

Personally I think the debate could be settled in a gentlemanly manner...by a time trial