Guinessisgoodforyou
rBotM Winner
Surely the peak of taste and aesthetics?
Discuss.
Discuss.
Aero Garbage Wind Resistant a lie
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benjabbi
Bontrager Fan
They missed a trick there, if you can't put your lunch in the back what's the point?
Frankenorange
Orange 🍊 Fan
You really are living up to your username with this post.
Amongst the sheep do you include all the women who are barely over 5'? Do you want them on 177.5 cranks and 46cm bars because you do, or do you decide for them what is right? How about the triathletes who have proven shorter cranks allow for better transition into the running after the bike element? or the current top tour riders who have dropped 10mm off their cranks? or people who, god forbid, just want to try shorter to see if it does make a difference to their performance, or in overcoming injury/disability? or TTers who can get just that little bit lower to flatten their backs for more aero?
I take offence at your small minded, judgemental, opinionated post because you will include me in the flock. I have gone shorter and shorter and have settled on 145mm. I am a 6' chunk and i have done this because my knees are goosed with arthritis and no ACL's and it is an actual real fact that shorter aggravates MY knees way less than cranks 30mm longer. Maybe i should have asked you first? What am i allowed, Nob?
Just imagine that you may have gone even faster if you had tried shorter cranks than being a sheep and used what everyone else was using back then and now you will never know what you were capable of. None of us will know because of the non science fads prevalent in british time trialling back then.
Yes each to there own & good luck to them……….And who's to say it doesn't work for them?
You only find out by experimenting.
bikeworkshop
Old School Grand Master
LondonClassic
Senior Retro Guru
I was looking at the top fairing and thinking what bike is that from...looks like a Kawasaki. GPZ/GPX600, GPX750, GTR1000.
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Guinessisgoodforyou
rBotM Winner
Definitely GPZ600 vibes. A great middleweight imo.
bikeworkshop
Old School Grand Master
Don't reckon that frame could handle more than 400
Good discussion. I don't have a lot of experience of fast road bikes having mainly owned tourers, but I recently built a GT Edge Ti and am massively impressed by its performance. I wondered what you folks think, as it might be relevant here.
It's turned out to be the most enjoyable bike I've ever owned with a super-smooth ride and great acceleration. The really surprising thing though is how well it holds speed, - it's in another league to anything before. I'm fairly certain the Campag Neutron Ultra wheels are responsible. These are pretty light, which accounts for the acceleration and hill climbing but not their apparent ability to retain momentum. Although they're not an 'aero' prioritised design I understand they've been shown to perform really well in this regard, with their thin flat spokes and internal nipples presumably helping.
Anyway, with chronic fatigue syndrome and very little energy I'm usually the slowest cyclist on the road. On this bike I still seldomly top about 20 mph (averaging much less), but I'm gliding around a lot faster using less energy. If the wheels are largely responsible (pretty sure they are), then their aero performance is a very clear benefit at slower speeds too.
It's turned out to be the most enjoyable bike I've ever owned with a super-smooth ride and great acceleration. The really surprising thing though is how well it holds speed, - it's in another league to anything before. I'm fairly certain the Campag Neutron Ultra wheels are responsible. These are pretty light, which accounts for the acceleration and hill climbing but not their apparent ability to retain momentum. Although they're not an 'aero' prioritised design I understand they've been shown to perform really well in this regard, with their thin flat spokes and internal nipples presumably helping.
Anyway, with chronic fatigue syndrome and very little energy I'm usually the slowest cyclist on the road. On this bike I still seldomly top about 20 mph (averaging much less), but I'm gliding around a lot faster using less energy. If the wheels are largely responsible (pretty sure they are), then their aero performance is a very clear benefit at slower speeds too.
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bikeworkshop
Old School Grand Master
Body position is no1.
Steel bikes had skinny tubes so the relevant savings on drag were small.
Current carbon models have Tubes up to 100mm diameter, so there's a lot can be done with airflow.
The crucial first factor is cross section, before you get on to profiles.
The edge is quite skinny front-on.
Those campag wheels have most of the weight in the rims, so giving a strong rolling feeling.
It's a quality race bike so it should feel fast and be more efficient than a sport/leisure bike.
