ID help please

Davidwd1306 · Dec 18, 2013

HI,

I would greatly appreciate it if someone could help me ID this bike frame.

It has campag dropouts, chrome stays and forks, 65mm BB shell and ornate lugs frame number 4462, (I think the last digit is a 2)

I am planning on restoring it and using it for some classic sportives.

Many thanks

David

Old Ned · Dec 18, 2013

No idea on the builder, there's not a lot that distinguishes it (apart from possibly the brazing of the 'fast back' seat stay /seat lug joint?). Nervex Professional lugs, cable stops etc. Bearing these in mind, the number possibly points to the 44th frame built in 1962? Looks a competent build however and should restore OK provided it's structurally sound.

Davidwd1306 · Dec 18, 2013

Thank you.

Yes the seat cluster is a bit unusual, I would have thought Mercian until I saw that.

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Midlife · Dec 18, 2013

Ellis Briggs ?

Shaun

Davidwd1306 · Dec 18, 2013

Hi Shaun,

Thank you, just been googling El;lis Briggs and yes it seems that they used that seat stay system along with those lugs, not sure about the forks though. thanks for the tip.
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Midlife · Dec 18, 2013

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My first thought was a Woodrup, post 4 on the above link is my copper plated late 60's Woodrup with fastback seat stays and fully sloping fork crown. My woodrup had plain Prugnat / Bocama lugs which were becoming more popular hence my thoughts an "older" frame and Ellis Briggs sprang to mind.......

Shaun

Davidwd1306 · Dec 18, 2013

Thanks shaun,

The woodrup is similar, but the wrong style of fastback seat stays. I have emailed ellis briggs with the frame number and pics. We will see what they say!

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Davidwd1306 · Dec 19, 2013

Re: ID help please - Ellis Briggs

Thanks again Shaun,

Ellis Briggs have confirmed its one of theirs, they are shortly getting back to me with the history.

Thanks again

D

Midlife · Dec 19, 2013

Glad you found the builder

Classy looking frame and deserves a real finish and not a powdercoat job. Please keep the forks with the chrome.......to die for BITD.

Shaun

Davidwd1306 · Dec 21, 2013

Just had it confirmed, it is a 1966 Ellis Briggs Gran Primo. I am going to have Ellis Briggs restore the frame for me and I think I am going to try and obtain a shimano 600 arabesque group for it.

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