vtwinvince
Senior Retro Guru
Is this thread a hoax?
Who can tell me which model of GT this titanium frame is? I've never seen before.
baron von greenback
Retro Guru
China make some really good stuff but they fake everything and
Why not frames but there's a big difference between paying proper money and you can think it's real and paying less knowing it's fake sounds to me like that the guys full of shit how many people have loads of rare frames buried in a lock up piss said he's already bought a frame and this is a different one if he's buying off eBay why not sell on there on another note have you seen the patek Phillips and rolexs they fake there £1000 each and they come with everything paper work boxes and there good
Why not frames but there's a big difference between paying proper money and you can think it's real and paying less knowing it's fake sounds to me like that the guys full of shit how many people have loads of rare frames buried in a lock up piss said he's already bought a frame and this is a different one if he's buying off eBay why not sell on there on another note have you seen the patek Phillips and rolexs they fake there £1000 each and they come with everything paper work boxes and there good
baron von greenback
Retro Guru
Just looked on that taboa it like that temu discounts and stuff and the way it's put across there's a lot more for sale what a knob he wants banning for stuff like that well done d8mok for knowing your stuff and mk one for finding it I knew to this could have easily had my pants pulled down I lot more clued up since been on here i might ask some stupid questions but this is why boils my piss just sell as a bike frame not what it isn't
What's it faking though - there never was a Ti Zaskar.
The only slightly spurious thing is the implication that it might be a GT prototype. Nobody's set out (at great expense) to fake a fantasy prototype.
Some one at some point had the mad idea of having a Zaskar pretty accurately copied out of titanium. That's top stuff!
The only slightly spurious thing is the implication that it might be a GT prototype. Nobody's set out (at great expense) to fake a fantasy prototype.
Some one at some point had the mad idea of having a Zaskar pretty accurately copied out of titanium. That's top stuff!
Basically yes, and it was very clear from very early on.
Twozaskars
Senior Retro Guru
I've not much more to add, other than to say I'm deadly serious. As for the special qualifications, whoever did this doesn't have them. I might start a ti weld appreciation thread one day.
My take on this having read the whole thread is pretty simple. It's not a GT frame of any sort. It's simply a copy of a GT frame (probably a zaskar) made in ti. Whether it was 20 years, 10 years or 10 mins ago, it doesn't really matter. Weld quality can be good or bad today or bitd, it doesn't look terrible but it's not the quality of any ti GT, USA or Taiwan made.
I have a GT lightning and I'd much rather have paid for that than a copy. Arguably you could buy a lightning frame for the same or less money than this copy, I know what I'd rather pay for.
A lightning is not a xixang, but it's not far off, and one could argue a much rarer frame having only been made for 2 years. Future or current classic, yes, this copy will never be anything than just a copy.
I have a GT lightning and I'd much rather have paid for that than a copy. Arguably you could buy a lightning frame for the same or less money than this copy, I know what I'd rather pay for.
A lightning is not a xixang, but it's not far off, and one could argue a much rarer frame having only been made for 2 years. Future or current classic, yes, this copy will never be anything than just a copy.
Twozaskars
Senior Retro Guru
Me? No. The only thing I find interesting about it is the spiders nest in the dropout. I wonder how many are in there.
Each to their own but I find that perplexing.
The point is this isn't copying anything!! It would actually have been much cheaper to copy a Xizang or Lightning as there's way more fabrication involved here. This was a committed effort by someone who fancied a Ti Zaskar and specifically *wasn't* interested in copying a model with the intention of deceiving anyone (even if you think the OP is).
The point is this isn't copying anything!! It would actually have been much cheaper to copy a Xizang or Lightning as there's way more fabrication involved here. This was a committed effort by someone who fancied a Ti Zaskar and specifically *wasn't* interested in copying a model with the intention of deceiving anyone (even if you think the OP is).
