what's this?

[ededwards]

Nicely put.

 

[pete_mcc]

Nicely put.

But totally out of context and a toothless argument when all the facts are considered.

But if you want to ride a 1989, rusted to buggery stump jumper with plastic parts then go ahead, I'll take the Cunningham any day.

 

[legrandefromage]

Nicely put.

But totally out of context and a toothless argument when all the facts are considered.

But if you want to ride a 1989, rusted to buggery stump jumper with plastic parts then go ahead, I'll take the Cunningham any day.

as it happens, I refuse to buy anything with a u-brake down there, check my history - its true!

and I think thats an '87 - these things are important you know.

 

[weeman_mtb]

Nicely put.

But totally out of context and a toothless argument when all the facts are considered.

But if you want to ride a 1989, rusted to buggery stump jumper with plastic parts then go ahead, I'll take the Cunningham any day.

I'm not really considering all the facts, just the bit about the brake position which you said was shite, shite, shite and would make the bike unrideable in muddy conditions.

 

[ededwards]

Nicely put.

But totally out of context and a toothless argument when all the facts are considered.

Nope. weeman_mtb pointed out the contradiction of your posts succinctly (and yes, I know that the Cunningham is custom but that's not relevant - after all the brake position is a shite design).

 

[pete_mcc]

Why is the fact that a Cunningham is custom not relevant. Is it not relevant that if you, as a UK buyer, had wanted a Cunningham then you would have it with a set of seat stay mounted cantis?

Also where in my case for a Cunningham being a bike of quality did I sing the praises of the chainstay mounted roller cam? Maybe weeman and you can rub the two brain cells together and find it for me. If its not there, then where is the contradiction?

I merely pointed out that if a person wanted to buy a bike for use in the UK then they would be best off not choosing a stumpjumper with a cstay brake (especially that one as it is a plastic coated exage mountain variant that flexed and cracked). Where as if you had a time machine, money and taste then you may want to go back in time and buy a custom (as everyone was) Cunningham.

Now chop, chop, off and find me the evidence.

 

[weeman_mtb]

Maybe weeman and you can rub the two brain cells together and find it for me.

You know you're losing an debate when you have to resort to personal insults.

Lets agree to disagree, I'll go back to looking at crap and you go back to the "quality" thread which you'll note I had the grace to stay out of.

 

[pete_mcc]

Wasn't a personal insult as I don't know you, it was a suggestion that all you need is two brain cells to check where that statement I made was.

Now stop dilly dallying and find me that evidence. You'll know where it is as you posted that I contradicted myself. Come on. Or ededwards, he backed you up, so he must know where this contradiction is.

 

[weeman_mtb]

The problem with the placement of there brakes were that they were pioneered in Marin where the nearest to mud they get is dust mixing with the riders sweat. Transplant that over to the uk and you end up with a mud clogging, chainsuck inducing nightmare of a brake that would wear through the rims in one decent winter ride.

Ok then, I don't really want to play anymore but this is the nearest thing to evidence I can find. Your answer will be that you were only refering to the U-brakes and you will claim victory, the end.

The only reason that started this is because I didn't like you rubbishing what to my mind was an acceptable retro bike. Sure all the components are crap but they bolt off which just leaves you with that awkward brake position. I'm pretty sure that plenty of folk on here have other makes of bike with the chainstay u-brake and they get by alright. Maybe they fabricate guards like on the rollercam brake in the "quality" thread, maybe they save these bikes for the dryer days, maybe we should start a "show us your chainstay u-brake bikes" and find out.

Now come and meet ededwards and myself at the Turkey Twizzler rerun and blow the cobwebs off your lovely Manitou!

 

[pete_mcc]

Cool we call it an end, but that quote was not from the Cunningham thread but from this one. There was never a mention of the rollercams in the Cunningham one (infact I did leave that one out of my list of attributes and innovations associated with the Cunninghams because I'm a canti fan).

Sadly the turkey twizzler is not for me, I am even more delicate than my manitou. Illness as kept me off bikes for well over a year so i have to make do with pointless arguments for entertainment. And, loathed as I am to used bloody emoticons, i will break a habit of a lifetime-